Hoya Mir and thx for the thread, takes a while sometimes to get your answer via reply,but not to say the answer isn't out here already. Often ya just need to revive an old post ,which is totally fine to do. In this instance I went to the area of cz82/83 and paged back till I found a thread "RE;cz82/83 refinish?How?Why?" and click away. I've forgotten how to even post my pics or include links so useless till I get a proper tip or two.Once you are in that thread you can reply to last posted to bring the whole thread up for today,increasing your chance of a reply since this forum has a system that alerts posters in the thread something new showed up there. Further you can read replies from specific posters,under their names can choose to visit their profile and even pm a question,or show every post they ever put up. That helps ya gauge their amount of activity in this small community where everyone has there own pace of activity. Started of the thread was JJBTexas so you can also reverse search as well, and to further aid ya his post began april 21,2016, since there may be one or hundreds of pages of posts. Welcome to find your answers there , I hope the lengthy read turns out being worth it. Cheers