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Offline Kelsw

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SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« on: March 06, 2019, 02:30:09 PM »
Been thinking about buying a SP-01 and wanted opinions on a safety model vs decocker model . I would not carry this but more for range and hd . Pros or cons . Thanks for the feed back .  I already own a P-09 9mm .

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2019, 02:56:32 PM »
Totally a preference thing.

Personally, a decocker is all the "safety" I need.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2019, 05:12:32 PM »
Safety model trigger is easier upgraded. 

I guess it depends how comfortable you are dropping the hammer (manually) on a live round if needed.  This is required in competition environment where loaded gun start is with hammer down.  I can't envision needing to do this with range or HD pistol.  If you need to drop the hammer, jack the live round out first and then drop it.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2019, 05:31:36 PM »
I just picked up a SP01 Tactical with a decocker.  Have a regular SP01 and a CZC Accu-Shadow to compare it to once I get the Cajun kit and get it installed.  I've never had a decocker model of any gun.  I'm interested to see how good I can get the trigger on this new gun.  Out of the box it is barely acceptable.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2019, 08:09:59 AM »
Get the safety version. Working on my buddy's supressor ready tactical and I have never seen such heavy springs in a cz before. Yes the double action was impossible to shoot accurately. Showed him the cajun gun works $150 upgrade package and said order this now and it will be a world of difference in this gun. I have it all apart and polished up waiting for the new goodies. He went with a reddot mount and vortex viper to try pistol reddots. We will see how it does.
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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2019, 01:09:01 PM »
While I agree with the trigger info presented I would chose based on which I use the most.  Over the years have sold off my P01's and a PCR and now have all safety version but I am an OF who started with 1911.
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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2019, 01:46:19 PM »
 I've never really been a fan of the decocker, but I love the sp01 tactical and my ppk/s.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2019, 04:22:33 PM »
     Hiya Kelsw and thx for the thread, agree with above operators suggestions as well. My experience is that a shotgun is the HD first choice, as homes invasions involve several perps on avg. I'd go to LGS and try both,but which ever system your P-09 is where you already have muscle memory developed,so go with what ya know. Suppose considerations might include of your range allows drawing from a holster,as some forbid it. And subtle tho distinct differences if your P-09 is cocked and locked, one in the barrel hammer down,vs the latter with safety engaged. And I also have the preference of the cz decockers that you push down on, verses a tactical I owned that ya had to nudge it upwards,which felt unnatural. So do try to try it before ya buy it if possible. Be well.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2019, 11:05:36 PM »
There is very little to no difference in the trigger of a safety model verses a decocker model. At best it is just debatable. Same thing as far as working on them...not much difference.
 
I prefer the decocker model, it is used for Home Defense, Truck Gun and Range Gun.. I suggest going with what you are more comfortable with.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2019, 09:39:57 AM »
There is very little to no difference in the trigger of a safety model verses a decocker model. At best it is just debatable. Same thing as far as working on them...not much difference.


Agreed. Time to put this myth to rest.

Choose a safety or a decocker for the specific virtues of either, but not because the trigger is going to be any different.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 09:44:00 AM »
There is very little to no difference in the trigger of a safety model verses a decocker model. At best it is just debatable. Same thing as far as working on them...not much difference.


Agreed. Time to put this myth to rest.

Choose a safety or a decocker for the specific virtues of either, but not because the trigger is going to be any different.

Right on!

I go with decocker I just don't like safteys

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2019, 11:11:40 AM »
I have both and agree with those that say there is zero appreciable difference in triggers between safety and decocker. They are about the same to work on as well.

Go with what you prefer.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2019, 01:36:47 PM »
Only major issue I know of is the need for adjustment of sear on safety models when installing new hammer upgrade.

I like my Sig 239 and 220, decocker was a natural choice for me.  Same for my now sold HK USP.

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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2019, 02:21:53 PM »
I have both and agree with those that say there is zero appreciable difference in triggers between safety and decocker. They are about the same to work on as well.

Go with what you prefer.

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They are not about the same to work on. Decocker has 3 small springs and 2 extra parts besides sear. Need a slave pin to get the sear cage back into the frame.

Safety model has sear and 1 spring and no need for a slave pin. Much easier to work on.
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Re: SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2019, 02:26:10 PM »
I have both and agree with those that say there is zero appreciable difference in triggers between safety and decocker. They are about the same to work on as well.

Go with what you prefer.

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They are not about the same to work on. Decocker has 3 small springs and 2 extra parts besides sear. Need a slave pin to get the sear cage back into the frame.

Safety model has sear and 1 spring and no need for a slave pin. Much easier to work on.

You're correct. Never mind what I said OP. The decocker is impossibly difficult to work on. Listen to this guy and get the safety model.