SP-01 standard vs tactical decocker

[Due51]

This is an old picture, as my SP-01 Tactical has followed me from patrol to investigator at the SO and ERT, but after 7000 rounds and routine maintenance the only issue was a recent de-cock spring to break. The pistol still functioned. It's been an outstanding service pistol as ordered from CGW. It now resides in a Blackpoint Tactical Leather Wing holster.

I want to add another CZ to my collection and was debating between the P01 Omega, 75 Compact, or go full size and get a Shadow or SP-01.  Your post, with all your experience, may have helped make my decision.  Thanks.

[dbarn]

I want to add another CZ to my collection and was debating between the P01 Omega, 75 Compact, or go full size and get a Shadow or SP-01.  Your post, with all your experience, may have helped make my decision.  Thanks.
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My pleasure sir. This one is near and dear to me. 

[Supertac]

From what I've learned the safety model is the way to go. Easier and cleaner to work on. No slave pin to mess with, no separate sear pin to stake.

[Hammer Time]

From what I've learned the safety model is the way to go. Easier and cleaner to work on. No slave pin to mess with, no separate sear pin to stake.

The safety model is the way to go.....if you want a safety.

But if you don't want a safety, the points you mention make little difference.

[MadDuner]

While I can appreciate the fact that the safety model is easier to work on..... I worked on my decocker model exactly once and haven?t needed to work on it anymore.  The differences are no big deal, and it wasn?t rocket surgery either.

[Due51]

I've had my P07 apart twice for polishing and inatalling a couple CGW parts.  Watch the YouTube videos and read the threads on the subject and you'll soon realize it's not a super complicated task.

I carry my P07 decocked and practice shooting DA.  For me, I feel more 'ready' (readier?) with hammer down/DA than I do cocked&locked/safety on.

[jabski]

Get the safety version. Working on my buddy's supressor ready tactical and I have never seen such heavy springs in a cz before. Yes the double action was impossible to shoot accurately. Showed him the cajun gun works $150 upgrade package and said order this now and it will be a world of difference in this gun. I have it all apart and polished up waiting for the new goodies. He went with a reddot mount and vortex viper to try pistol reddots. We will see how it does.

Hey, I was wondering what the CGW kit for $150 was for the tactical . I just picked one up and not sure which way I want to go with CGW...

[falar]

I went with the safety model even though I plan on carrying hammer down and never using the safety.  I'm comfortable decocking manually and didn't want the extra parts as well as the option to add the winged safety to give your thumb a shelf.

[GBUS]

Either version is a good choice really just depends on what manual of arms you’re most comfortable with.

For me the biggest detractor for the tactical is that it says tactical down the side, just not my thing. Add to it that the safety model has less small parts and is slightly more versatile in that you can carry it hammer full down or at half cock w/ no safety on or you can carry it cocked and locked.
The decocker model is made to be carried at half cock so slightly less versatile. So if more options is better go safety model.
If simply decocking the gun and holstering is more important, then the decocker model is a good choice for you.

[larry8061]

It is actually pretty easy to decide.  If in a panic and you pull your gun are you going to remember to take the safety off? Can you ALWAYS get your gun out of the holster with your finger OUT of the trigger guard? You not getting shot and the bad guy getting shot is WAY more important than the hassle of the decocker spring issues (that's why they invented gunsmiths.)

[GBUS]

It is actually pretty easy to decide.  If in a panic and you pull your gun are you going to remember to take the safety off? Can you ALWAYS get your gun out of the holster with your finger OUT of the trigger guard? You not getting shot and the bad guy getting shot is WAY more important than the hassle of the decocker spring issues (that's why they invented gunsmiths.)

Sounds like you are under the misconception that you must actually use the safety.

If you keep the safety model SP-01 hammer full down or half cocked you cannot engage the safety. The gun works exactly the same in those two positions as the decocker model does.
So it is no slower or faster and there is nothing extra to do or remember.
The only time you can or would engage the safety is if the gun were being carried at full cock like a 1911 or if you wanted to make the gun safe while you were shooting it without having to manually lower the hammer. That is the real difference. Manually lowering the hammer vs using the lever to lower the hammer.
So as I mentioned prior, you just have more options available with the safety model but in reality it works just like the decocker model if that’s how you choose to carry it.
You can’t accidentally engage the safety either, it will only engage if the hammer is at full cock.

[larry8061]

It is actually pretty easy to decide.  If in a panic and you pull your gun are you going to remember to take the safety off? Can you ALWAYS get your gun out of the holster with your finger OUT of the trigger guard? You not getting shot and the bad guy getting shot is WAY more important than the hassle of the decocker spring issues (that's why they invented gunsmiths.)

Sounds like you are under the misconception that you must actually use the safety.

If you keep the safety model SP-01 hammer full down or half cocked you cannot engage the safety. The gun works exactly the same in those two positions as the decocker model does.
So it is no slower or faster and there is nothing extra to do or remember.
The only time you can or would engage the safety is if the gun were being carried at full cock like a 1911 or if you wanted to make the gun safe while you were shooting it without having to manually lower the hammer. That is the real difference. Manually lowering the hammer vs using the lever to lower the hammer.
So as I mentioned prior, you just have more options available with the safety model but in reality it works just like the decocker model if that’s how you choose to carry it.
You can’t accidentally engage the safety either, it will only engage if the hammer is at full cock.

I am curious as to your need to try and pick apart my post?  This is not exactly the most welcoming forum.

[GBUS]

It is actually pretty easy to decide.  If in a panic and you pull your gun are you going to remember to take the safety off? Can you ALWAYS get your gun out of the holster with your finger OUT of the trigger guard? You not getting shot and the bad guy getting shot is WAY more important than the hassle of the decocker spring issues (that's why they invented gunsmiths.)

Sounds like you are under the misconception that you must actually use the safety.

If you keep the safety model SP-01 hammer full down or half cocked you cannot engage the safety. The gun works exactly the same in those two positions as the decocker model does.
So it is no slower or faster and there is nothing extra to do or remember.
The only time you can or would engage the safety is if the gun were being carried at full cock like a 1911 or if you wanted to make the gun safe while you were shooting it without having to manually lower the hammer. That is the real difference. Manually lowering the hammer vs using the lever to lower the hammer.
So as I mentioned prior, you just have more options available with the safety model but in reality it works just like the decocker model if that’s how you choose to carry it.
You can’t accidentally engage the safety either, it will only engage if the hammer is at full cock.

I am curious as to your need to try and pick apart my post?  This is not exactly the most welcoming forum.

Sorry, I’m not intentionally trying to pick on you, just trying to pass on accurate information.
Your post just made it seam like the safety model requires you to use the safety when it doesn’t and I would want those looking for info on the two models to have the correct information.
Should we not correct misinformation when we see it because someone might take it as a personal attack. I’d rather explain it as I have in this post and those above and let people make their choices with the best info possible.
And welcome to the forum, it’s more welcoming than many in my opinion but it is the internet, so no actual guarantees.

[MadDuner]

I have CZ75s in both safety and decocker. 
Neither seems any easier or more difficult to disassemble or reassemble than the other.  That is a non-issue. 

I am used to thumbing the hammer down instead of using the decocker mechanism - since I’ve been doing so on firearms that way for the past 50 years without issue.  Another non-issue.

I specifically buy DA/SA weapons because I do not like safeties, so I do not carry cocked and locked with a safety on. 

The rest of the “argument or division” of “safety vs decocker” is simply people attempting to reinforce their own personal purchase decision - because everybody everywhere thinks that what they think or want is “correct” and everyone else that doesn’t follow suite is somehow wrong.  People need to look beyond that and recognize that we are all on the same team, and enjoying the same things.

Variety is the spice of life! Embrace it while you can!!!

I am still grateful to be allowed all these choices! 

[larryflew]

It is actually pretty easy to decide.  If in a panic and you pull your gun are you going to remember to take the safety off? Can you ALWAYS get your gun out of the holster with your finger OUT of the trigger guard? You not getting shot and the bad guy getting shot is WAY more important than the hassle of the decocker spring issues (that's why they invented gunsmiths.)

Sounds like you are under the misconception that you must actually use the safety.

If you keep the safety model SP-01 hammer full down or half cocked you cannot engage the safety. The gun works exactly the same in those two positions as the decocker model does.
So it is no slower or faster and there is nothing extra to do or remember.
The only time you can or would engage the safety is if the gun were being carried at full cock like a 1911 or if you wanted to make the gun safe while you were shooting it without having to manually lower the hammer. That is the real difference. Manually lowering the hammer vs using the lever to lower the hammer.
So as I mentioned prior, you just have more options available with the safety model but in reality it works just like the decocker model if that’s how you choose to carry it.
You can’t accidentally engage the safety either, it will only engage if the hammer is at full cock.

I am curious as to your need to try and pick apart my post?  This is not exactly the most welcoming forum.

I saw it as a need to correct your information.  IE you don't need to remember the safety if you are shooting DA as the safety can't be set to on in any condition other than cocked and locked.  This also would pertain to your question about drawing the gun as it is in exactly the same condition as a gun with a decocker. All of this kind of goes against being easy to decide with the info you gave.  IMO it's VERY important to correct information as there are a lot of newbies without a clue on how the different guns operate that might read your post and think things like the safety being in play when it isn't or that somehow it is more dangerous to draw even though the conditions are identical.  Been years since anyone here has picked apart correct information just for the sake of argument etc.