CZ SP-01 Tactical POI rise with distance

[dxs425]

I just bought a brand new SP-01 Tactical. Nice shooter and a very stable platform overall. One thing I noticed was POI climbing up as I add the range distance. At 7 yards it shoots right in the middle of the target perhaps even a bit low but it's hardly noticeable. When I move the target to 10 yards POI climbs by about 2 in. When I move the target to 15 yard mark my POI goes up by another 2-3 in. I get roughly the same tight 2-3" groups in all cases, they just shift higher. Did anyone else experience this? It's my first full size gun with a long barrel and my compacts don't seem to do that or perhaps I had not noticed. Can it be a function of higher velocity due to longer time in the barrel or perhaps recoil impacts the muzzle rise more because of it? Thank you!

[adrian]

     Hiya dxs435 and thanks for your thread. My tactical was one of the most accurate out of the box I'd seen with my cz's so agree its a great shooter. Mine just had factory night sites ,with a front fixed and the rear basically fixed. Suppose with a sight pusher it can be moved left and right.But to elevation adj,nor windage. And assume as a tactical its design is close quarters use and most of my shooting was 7yds and closer, it was perfect. If I practiced further out shooting I'd have to just move my front dot to adj for the distance, don't know if that helps.
     I never had the need to figure out if I needed or could zero my tactical, and assume its prolly zeroed at bout 7yds, perhaps some operators could suggest if re zeroing between 7 and 15 yards might have any advantage to you and POI. I recall a pistol instructor trying to explain some rise and fall of just 9mm ammo of the factory loads, adding that air temp and even the elevation of where we are at factor in. Generally at 25yds rise is +1.9 inch,50yds +2.9 inch,and -1.7inch at 100yds. For a fun project borrow a rest and notice the difference in sight picture at 15yds verses 7yds. Be well.

[Due51]

I'm experiencing the same issue with a Canik TP9SF I just bought.  Dead nuts at 5 yards but POI elevates a couple inches for every 5 yards back I move the target.  I'm contemplating putting a taller sight on the front or shorter one on the back.

[skin]

 If I  remember correctly, most cz's are sighted in from the factory at 25 meters. At a closer distance, say 5 meters, it should be almost dead on. As you move farther out it will rise and then  start dropping until you get to 25 meters and then it will be below point of aim. Hope this helps.

[Earl Keese]

Bullet trajectory is an arc. Maintaining the same POA at varying distances, POI should change. Am I missing something here?

[skin]

 Earl said it better than I.

[Due51]

Bullet trajectory is an arc. Maintaining the same POA at varying distances, POI should change. Am I missing something here?

Canik (and it sounds like CZ as well, if I read a previous post correctly) sight in at 25 yards.  If the sights are on, we should be "on" at 25 yards.  But, in my case, it steadily rises from 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25. (By steadily rising, I mean it's a couple inches high at 10 yards, a couple more at 15, more at 20, and so on).
It appears my sights are off unless I'm missing something.  I don't have much use for a pistol that is dead on at 75 yards.

[Earl Keese]

Bullet trajectory is an arc. Maintaining the same POA at varying distances, POI should change. Am I missing something here?

Canik (and itsounds like CZ as well, if I read a previous post correctly) sight in at 25 yards.  If the sights are on, we should be "on" at 25 yards.  But, in my case, it steadily rises from 5, 10, 15, 20, and 25. (By steadily rising, I mean it's a couple inches high at 10 yards, a couple more at 15, more at 20, and so on).
It appears my sights are off unless I'm missing something.  I don't have much use for a pistol that os dead on at 75 yards.

What is your point of aim at 25?

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[Due51]

Pumpkin on a fencepost.

[MadDuner]

I haven?t tried shooting mine at anything closer than 7 yds, but the Point of impact does not appear to change from the point of aim on my tactical until out past 50 yards or so.  I have to aim a little higher at 100 yds, and about 18? high at 200 yds.  Factory FMJ ammo at 115gr or 124 acts the same for me.

My sight picture on mine would be POI has the center of the pumpkin sitting on the top edge of the sights.

[Earl Keese]

The CZ manual states that the sights are regulated for POI same as POA at 25m(27.3yds). That would be for 124gr ammo. The OP didn't say what ammo or what sight picture he's using. Due51, I'm with you. Sounds like you need a taller front sight. Did yours come with the Warren Tactical sights?

[Due51]

Yes it did and I've been in contact with both Canik and Warren. 

We'll see where it goes.

The CZ manual states that the sights are regulated for POI same as POA at 25m(27.3yds). That would be for 124gr ammo. The OP didn't say what ammo or what sight picture he's using. Due51, I'm with you. Sounds like you need a taller front sight. Did yours come with the Warren Tactical sights?

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[charlesv]

Sure they didnt give you a banana for a barrel? I dont know how excessive rise like that is otherwise explained.

I cant compare with you because i just bought a new SP-01 i havent yet fired but within the myriad YT vids on the gun, nobody mentioned such a problem. Does that mean they did have the issue when new and got through it with sight adjustments, never had the issue or were never sold a banana for a barrel?

Except for the expected trajectory of a bullet at 50 yds and 100 yds, Ive never had excessive rise or fall or anything with any pistol. If you dont learn anything from your questions to the vendors, maybe you have to send the gun back to CZ and say that you got the joke but could they switch out the banana for the real barrel now?

I hope you keep us informed to the end, i'd like to know how to deal with it if/when its my turn.