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Offline Inspector 12

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Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« on: April 10, 2019, 08:09:38 AM »
Shipped my trigger pack to CZC yesterday to get a new trigger pack installed and tuned. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Looking forward to the reduced pull weight and movement.

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 11:42:34 AM »
You will love the improvement!  What do they do, polish and lighter springs?

I put the lighter springs in mine and it was a big improvement.  After firing 500-600 rounds through it, the trigger got smoother but still a little "catchy".  So just this morning I tore it back apart and did a polish/trigger job on it.  MUCH smoother now, the trigger reset is better too!  I was hoping Black Collar Arms would get their redesigned trigger back in stock but they're taking forever.  Now that I've done this, not sure I'll even mess going with their aftermarket trigger.  Saves me $200 too  :)
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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 03:38:01 PM »
I’m getting the CZC replacement trigger kit and having them install and tune it. Results expected are lighter pull and shorter movement. Stock is .310, replacement is .095

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 03:41:57 PM »
Please post a report of the difference you find etc. once it comes back.
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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 04:06:06 PM »
     Hiya and thanks for your thread. The improvement is really night and day, kinda wished that it was part of the factory design. And 1000RR I'd had them do the work a few years ago and don't think the turn around time was much more than a week,but really depends on the orders waiting ahead of it. The trigger pkg cost me about 320 those years ago. Be well.

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 05:43:17 PM »
I’m getting the CZC replacement trigger kit and having them install and tune it. Results expected are lighter pull and shorter movement. Stock is .310, replacement is .095

Now that I looked at the numbers they advertise, I'm curious how they measured the stock travel at 0.310?!  I just measured my trigger travel at the very bottom of the trigger shoe (I have the HBI Theta Forward Trigger Shoe) and it travels exactly 6mm (0.24"). I would have expected my trigger to travel slightly further than stock being mine is the Forward Theta.  0.310" of travel would equate to just shy of 8mm.

That said, it looks like if they get it down to 0.095", that would only be 2-3/8 mm.  That would be nice!!  That's ~60% less travel than I have now.

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 06:13:06 PM »
I ran across the following from Black Collar Arms (they make a drop in trigger for $200 that sounds like it does similar to what CZ is doing w/yours).  The numbers they show make a little more sense.  They say the factory pull is 0.175".  With my Theta forward trigger being more, that makes more sense.  Their numbers and CZ's numbers are really close in the travel, 50% less travel!!

Here's there chart:




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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 06:24:35 PM »
I have a CZ Shadow 2 and four Sig Legions. I’m a big fan of short reset triggers. I’m not sure where the measure it but my stock trigger pull is loong and gritty.

I’m really looking forward to the CZC trigger.

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 06:29:06 PM »
You'll undoubtedly love it.  With the HBI spring kit and the polish, the pull weight (4-5lbs) and smoothness is great.  But I gotta say, I'm a little jealous of the pull length you'll get from CZ.  That would make it outstanding!

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2019, 11:07:58 PM »
You can always place shims in a standard trigger pack to greatly reduce over travel, trigger pull length and reset distance.  It is not as good as the CZC trigger pack, but a great improvement to the overly long trigger pull. 

The main cost is the brass strip material (Ace Hardware) and some JB Weld expoy. 

I have some earlier threads that talk about this.

- DanT Phoenix, Az

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 08:51:36 AM »
You can always place shims in a standard trigger pack to greatly reduce over travel, trigger pull length and reset distance.  It is not as good as the CZC trigger pack, but a great improvement to the overly long trigger pull. 

The main cost is the brass strip material (Ace Hardware) and some JB Weld expoy. 

I have some earlier threads that talk about this.

- DanT Phoenix, Az

Hey DanT.  Yes, I've checked out your write up.  My current trigger (for whatever reason) has no noticeable overtravel, so I would just be working the rear shim to decrease overall trigger travel.  Doesn't look like a difficult task at all, just not sure I'm committed to my own custom parts in the trigger pack (even as simple as it is). 

Would be nice if someone just sold a revised trigger hook (trigger housing on CZ's diagram).  That would seem to to address my last hope (shorter pull).  I guess I could always just buy the trigger housing (trigger hook) assembly from CZ ($75) and shave off part of the hooks (keep mine for stock/oem sake).  But then I'd end up with a little overtravel, so I'd be back to shimming the forward foot - LOL, the tangled web we weave. 

Inspector 12 has a good approach - just send it off  8)    Or, maybe Black Collar Arms will get their drop in trigger back in stock soon  ::)
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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 08:08:34 AM »
ShootingSight trigger is (finally) getting ready to launch.  Production parts went off for NiB coating, so I should start shipping in about 2 weeks.

These will include a replacement hammer, and sear assembly for $199 with free shipping (you assemble it yourself), or $250 for a fully assembled pack that you drop in.

It is a 2-stage design, pull will be in the 4.5 to 5.0lb range, and the first stage travel is under 0.1" before a crisp break.

Sear and hammer are Rolled Plate Tool Steel that has been CNC machined, lapped, and coated with NiB for the ultimate in smoothness.

I don't pre-sell, but if you want to be informed of updates, shoot us an email at shootingsight@fioptics.com, and we'll add you to an email list once we have something.  As stated, I expect about 2 weeks to get the parts back from NiB coating, and that's the last step we are waiting on.

Art Neergaard
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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2019, 11:35:42 AM »
I have a CZ Shadow 2 and four Sig Legions. I’m a big fan of short reset triggers. I’m not sure where the measure it but my stock trigger pull is loong and gritty.

I’m really looking forward to the CZC trigger.

you will be thrilled by their work  . Both custom cz shops make the guns  feel totally different. Even more than when you might upgrade a 1911. you really FEEL the better trigger(lighter,smoother, shortened slack, crisp break.

good  for you. patience is the hardest part ( according to Tom Petty)

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2019, 03:36:37 PM »
ShootingSight trigger is (finally) getting ready to launch.  Production parts went off for NiB coating, so I should start shipping in about 2 weeks.

These will include a replacement hammer, and sear assembly for $199 with free shipping (you assemble it yourself), or $250 for a fully assembled pack that you drop in.

It is a 2-stage design, pull will be in the 4.5 to 5.0lb range, and the first stage travel is under 0.1" before a crisp break.

Sear and hammer are Rolled Plate Tool Steel that has been CNC machined, lapped, and coated with NiB for the ultimate in smoothness.

I don't pre-sell, but if you want to be informed of updates, shoot us an email at shootingsight@fioptics.com, and we'll add you to an email list once we have something.  As stated, I expect about 2 weeks to get the parts back from NiB coating, and that's the last step we are waiting on.

Art Neergaard
ShootingSight llc

Looking forward to seeing what you got Art.  Thanks for the e-mails over the weekend going into further detail!!

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Re: Trigger pack to CZC the wait begins
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2019, 11:45:24 PM »
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