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Offline m1a_scoutguy

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Hey, guys, I have some thoughts & ideas on mounting a red dot on a PO-7 slide and need some thoughts & info from guys that have gone down this road. Looking for some info on options and what has worked best for everyone. I realize everyone is different and has different ideas but in general, we are looking at the same end results I think. I know the Trijicon RMR is kinda the gold standard but I have also read and seen a lot of good info on the Holosun optic! The Vortex and maybe the Burris Fast Fire could work also, but I am kinda at the mindset of buy once cry once. But maybe not ready to go down the Aimpoint ACRO road yet,LOL ! Seems like Primary Machine is the go-to place for slide work & I do plan on calling them and asking a few questions on the options they list, I just want to be clear before I spend the $$$! I'm sure I will come up with more questions but feel free to make suggestions and get me pointed in hopefully the right direction. Thanks for any info guys,I'll be back !  ;)

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 07:08:22 AM »
For dovetail mount red dot mounting plate, here is an option at Springer Precision :
https://shop.springerprecision.com/Springer-Precision-CZ-P09-P07-Dr-Burris-Venom-Dovetail-Mount-SP0328.htm

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 08:03:16 AM »
I have a P10 milled for an RMR and a 75 milled for a Venom. The slides on the 07/10's are wide and work well with the RMR. On the 10, I had it milled for a buis in front of the RMR and have been very pleased with it. The Holosun uses the same mounting pattern as the RMR, so you have another option there. Not sure about the ACRO, but it sure looks...big.
 My 75 was done just for match use, so buis were unnecessary. It all comes down to preference and purpose. One thing is for sure though, you can't go wrong with Primary Machine - great work and fast turn around.

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 08:35:53 AM »
I have a P10 milled for an RMR and a 75 milled for a Venom. The slides on the 07/10's are wide and work well with the RMR. On the 10, I had it milled for a buis in front of the RMR and have been very pleased with it. The Holosun uses the same mounting pattern as the RMR, so you have another option there. Not sure about the ACRO, but it sure looks...big.
 My 75 was done just for match use, so buis were unnecessary. It all comes down to preference and purpose. One thing is for sure though, you can't go wrong with Primary Machine - great work and fast turn around.

 +1000 👍👍👍 using Primary Machines.
I sent them my P-O9 slide and Vortex Viper RDS to be mounted.
They milled the slide for the RDS , cerakoted titanium, then mounted the RDS. The Milling is so tight you couldn't put a hair between the RDS and the slide.  Since I've had it , I have drawn out of the holster several hundred times , the cerekoting on the slide shows no signs of wear whatsoever .
 Their work is impeccable I highly recommend them.





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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2019, 01:43:37 PM »
For dovetail mount red dot mounting plate, here is an option at Springer Precision :
https://shop.springerprecision.com/Springer-Precision-CZ-P09-P07-Dr-Burris-Venom-Dovetail-Mount-SP0328.htm

I have a P10 milled for an RMR and a 75 milled for a Venom. The slides on the 07/10's are wide and work well with the RMR. On the 10, I had it milled for a buis in front of the RMR and have been very pleased with it. The Holosun uses the same mounting pattern as the RMR, so you have another option there. Not sure about the ACRO, but it sure looks...big.
 My 75 was done just for match use, so buris was unnecessary. It all comes down to preference and purpose. One thing is for sure though, you can't go wrong with Primary Machine - great work and fast turn around.

Thanks for the info guys! Hmmm, that's a viable option I think with the plate from Springer-Precision, looks like it would sit a tick higher but nothing terrible! Using the "plate" would save the cost of the machining and ya can go back to stock if I decided I didn't care for it. Bottom line is my eyes are 65ish years old so "anything" that helps me see/acquire my targets is a big plus! I am also looking at buying a 2nd slide so I could go back and forth if I wanted, just have one set up for the red dot and one standard. I do carry my 07 so that is something to consider, but being my carry gun it is the one I shoot 99% of the time for range work/training/competition,, so maybe the more permanent machining work is a better choice! Appreciate the pic's also, I'll keep looking and learning and any more pic's, info or thoughts are a bonus. Thanks! I'll keep ya posted!

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2019, 01:48:30 PM »
 The dovetail mount works fine for recreational group shooting at distance or bullseye type shooting.
 When you want quick sight acquisition and transitions, milling for the lowest possible mounting position is superior.

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2019, 01:50:27 PM »
The dovetail mount works fine for recreational group shooting at distance or bullseye type shooting.
 When you want quick sight acquisition and transitions, milling for the lowest possible mounting position is superior.

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^ THIS! 

I had Primary Arms mill a slide for me, and am very happy with their work! 


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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2019, 02:03:14 PM »
The dovetail mount works fine for recreational group shooting at distance or bullseye type shooting.
 When you want quick sight acquisition and transitions, milling for the lowest possible mounting position is superior.

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Thanks, Earl, yea that makes sense! It sounds like I just need to spend the $$$ and go full in! Without changing up my "original" thread or thoughts,I have toyed with the idea of just getting a darn "OR" P-10c and be done with it! I have bounced back and forth about getting a "Striker" gun again & even though it seems like they have the bugs worked out I have held off on the P-10 Series of pistols just for that reason! We all LOVE CGW and ya surely can send anything CZ to them and they will make it right, but as much as I love my CZs I don't feel you should have to send any NEW gun anyplace to make it right, just my 2 cents on that subject, LOL I have thought about getting an evil Austrian pistol again cuz they have all the OR guns also, but not sure if I want to go that route,I have had them in the past and still have one actually but its in Texas with my Daughter,that way I have something when I go down that way !  ;) Well, I'll keep snooping and looking and decide here shortly, thanks again guys for all the info!

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2019, 05:48:01 PM »
Hey m1a scoutguy, I know what you're talking about with the eyes oh, I'll be 60 soon and the milled slide with the RDS  done by primary machines changed everything. Very quick Target acquisition.
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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 06:24:36 AM »
If you need reading glasses, you need a RMR on your pistol.

I can still put good shots on a human target to 15 yards which should cover most self defense shooting scenarios in the USA. However let's cover all bases and give ourselves the ability to shoot at all distances.

In close up shooting 0 to 7 yards I just use the glass of the RMR and the front suppressor sight as sort of a big ghost ring sight.

I was with some friends that had spent as much time in the anti terror game as I did, they were in a unit that still officially doesn't exist in the US army and me in Israel. One of the Americans said the reason he switched to RMR at a age his eyes were still great. "Using a RMR on a pistol is just so easy it is almost cheating"

I agree 100% been using an RMR since 2001.

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 01:20:28 PM »
If you need reading glasses, you need a RMR on your pistol.

I can still put good shots on a human target to 15 yards which should cover most self defense shooting scenarios in the USA. However let's cover all bases and give ourselves the ability to shoot at all distances.

In close up shooting 0 to 7 yards I just use the glass of the RMR and the front suppressor sight as sort of a big ghost ring sight.

I was with some friends that had spent as much time in the anti-terror game as I did, they were in a unit that still officially doesn't exist in the US army and me in Israel. One of the Americans said the reason he switched to RMR at an age his eyes were still great. "Using an RMR on a pistol is just so easy it is almost cheating"

I agree 100% been using an RMR since 2001.

Thank you, Sir, for the info, it makes sense! The one thing I can "see" is a LOT of guys are running RMRs and I mean young guys! Me needing one because my eyes are fading is a good reason but when you see more & more people using them it gives pause to look at the big picture I guess! I am going to do it but still looking at options on which optic. The Trijicon is the bomb for sure but its the most $$$, not that I couldn't spend that much it is about justifying it I guess, but when have I ever or anyone justified buying gun stuff, LOL! Yoni if I may ask which MOA do you run on your RMR, I would think the smallest one would be best but am open to suggestions before I spend the $$$. Thanks again everyone for the info!

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 02:19:39 PM »
On my p-09 has a Vortex viper 6 moa.
"Lifetime  warranty" ,moa is big enough for up close shots,but small enough not too cover up targets at a distance.
Also at a good price as compared to the others . try optics planet .
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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 05:48:36 PM »
 also forgot to mention I believe the vortex Viper is the shortest in height of all of the RDS.
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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2019, 07:16:34 PM »
I am beat tired right now and can't think what the MOA sized dot I am running, but it is the smallest one in the RMR and before that when I was running the Dr. Optic it was also the smallest one.

I don't buy you need a big dot for speed, you eye naturally is draw to the dot.

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Re: Best avenue too take for Milling a 07 slide and mounting a Red Dot
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2019, 07:44:50 PM »
6 moa isn't really that big. Especially for pistol, maybe a little big for rifle shooting long distance.
Mine is for self-defense, didn't need one for a longer distance.
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