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Offline Noclutch

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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2020, 04:33:54 PM »
Quote from: DDNC on September 12, 2019, 12:55:44 PM
The B2 isn’t better, it’s just lighter (more recoil) and more modular and comes in x39 as an option.
The B1 has a much better trigger group though.

Keep forgetting about that perk.  Has anyone seen/done the 7.62 switchover yet (in this country)?
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2020, 04:40:52 PM »
Quote from: Magsz on May 31, 2020, 08:49:22 AM


IF you want a shooter, you want the Bren 2.  If you're a collector, you want the 805 and then a bren 2 later on to actually go shoot. :P

The 805 is a good rifle but the bren 2 is a product improvement.  Does everyone need an Iphone 11?  Absolutely not, people with Iphone 10's are doing just fine, same as people running around with Iphone 8's.  Is the Iphone 11 the best iteration of the Iphone from a performance standard?  Yes, it is.



Thanks again for the input Magsz

Yup, getting one of each actually did cross my mind! 8)

And My iFern 6 is working just fine still! ::)
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2021, 09:40:35 AM »
Newer is not better necessarily ::).  In m eyes this has been decided by the rifles themselves! The B2 (X39 & 5.56 have problems, the B1 seems to be reliable. I haven't heard of many failures when it comes to the B1 (actually none). Mine has been unfailing (B1 5.56 11")
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2021, 08:14:09 AM »
On one trip to my range with my CZ 805 Bren S1 carbine, I ran into a US military veteran who was there with his FN Scar (I didn't get the number).

We traded guns to compare each in shooting.

The vet preferred my Bren over his Scar.

I agreed with him.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2022, 06:27:18 PM »
I have an805 pistol.  am looking at swapping if for a Bren 2, because I had a stroke in October, and my left arm is not fully functional yet.  the lighter Bren 2 seems a more practical swap.  If anyone has some insight on this idea, shout out!
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2022, 02:09:41 AM »
Quote from: the war wagon on January 11, 2022, 06:27:18 PM
I have an805 pistol.  am looking at swapping if for a Bren 2, because I had a stroke in October, and my left arm is not fully functional yet.  the lighter Bren 2 seems a more practical swap.  If anyone has some insight on this idea, shout out!

Sorry to hear about your health scare.  You can shave another lb+ in weight off from Bren 2 by going w/ a lightweight AR15 pistol build...

I'd suggest that route and keeping your 805. 

Without knowing the extent of function on your LH size you might even want to look at weapons designed for one hand only use with braces, such as a handgun chassis with a brace. 

For subcompacts, anything with a pistol grip mag insertion will reduce overall length (vs forward magwells w/ same overall barrel length) and should also increase controlability due to leverage, fulcrum, etc. physics.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2022, 09:01:53 AM »
Quote from: RSR on January 12, 2022, 02:09:41 AM
Quote from: the war wagon on January 11, 2022, 06:27:18 PM
I have an805 pistol.  am looking at swapping if for a Bren 2, because I had a stroke in October, and my left arm is not fully functional yet.  the lighter Bren 2 seems a more practical swap.  If anyone has some insight on this idea, shout out!

Sorry to hear about your health scare.  You can shave another lb+ in weight off from Bren 2 by going w/ a lightweight AR15 pistol build...

I'd suggest that route and keeping your 805. 

Without knowing the extent of function on your LH size you might even want to look at weapons designed for one hand only use with braces, such as a handgun chassis with a brace. 

For subcompacts, anything with a pistol grip mag insertion will reduce overall length (vs forward magwells w/ same overall barrel length) and should also increase controlability due to leverage, fulcrum, etc. physics.
Beretta cx4 is outstanding.

But I'd even suggest a bullpup like the AUG or X95.

I've shot both, owned an Aug clone. Really easy to do one handed work.


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Offline Codename46

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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2022, 10:34:18 AM »
Not a big fan of either.

The Bren 2 is certainly an improvement but has its own drawbacks. Their integrated "BAD" button presents a safety issue and isn't very ergonomic. Their selector gets in the way of your shooting finger when you're indexing it out of the trigger guard. There's barely any availability of spare internal small parts.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2022, 05:37:42 PM »
Quote from: rdcinhou on December 10, 2021, 08:14:09 AM
On one trip to my range with my CZ 805 Bren S1 carbine, I ran into a US military veteran who was there with his FN Scar (I didn't get the number).

We traded guns to compare each in shooting.

The vet preferred my Bren over his Scar.

I agreed with him.

Me too.  The most notable difference is in the recoil impulse.  My SCAR 16 has a strange delay in returning to battery compared to my BREN S1, probably because of the SCAR's massive reciprocating weight.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2022, 09:21:40 PM »
These Brens whether 1st or 2nd Gen are also made so very much nicer than a SCAR. From what I've read, the Bren is just hands down better all-round.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2022, 04:44:14 AM »
Zombie thread returns! Just kidding - having had both, I prefer my BREN 2 MS. The BREN 805 was a wonderful shooter but was heavier than I wanted. I really like the changes in the BREN 2. If you are indexing your finger outside the trigger guard - put it straight forward, as there is an indent in the frame seemingly just for that purpose. I would like more spare parts availability, but what is breaking? I haven't had anything fail yet, but I don't abuse it, nor do I shoot it exclusively, plus the ammo shortage cut my range time down, unfortunately.
i SINCERELY WISH A MEDICAL CRISIS HADN'T COST ME MY bren 805, but I am very happy with my little BREN 2 which just keeps on ticking n matter what I feed it, right to point of aim.
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2022, 07:01:50 PM »
Quote from: RSR on January 12, 2022, 02:09:41 AM
Quote from: the war wagon on January 11, 2022, 06:27:18 PM
I have an805 pistol.  am looking at swapping if for a Bren 2, because I had a stroke in October, and my left arm is not fully functional yet.  the lighter Bren 2 seems a more practical swap.  If anyone has some insight on this idea, shout out!

Sorry to hear about your health scare.  You can shave another lb+ in weight off from Bren 2 by going w/ a lightweight AR15 pistol build...

AR pistol reliability is spotty at best, as gassing it correctly becomes the issue - main reason I got the 805 over the AR pistol as I have 6 DI AR's that ar all 14.5 or longer & run great.


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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2022, 12:48:08 AM »
11-12" ARs are generally fine or can be configured to such if buying from reputable vendors.  BATF looks to be trying to ban them later this year though...
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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2022, 01:02:37 PM »
Quote from: RSR on February 18, 2022, 12:48:08 AM
11-12" ARs are generally fine or can be configured to such if buying from reputable vendors.  BATF looks to be trying to ban them later this year though...
They are trying a backdoor ban by regulating the use of braces so strictly that they will become much less practical to use.

August is the expected roll out of the new rules.

I always said the roll out of the new e-file system was in perpetration for such a thing.


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Re: Bren 805 better than Bren 2?
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2022, 07:29:59 PM »
Well, they really shouldn't. Especially after they had no problem with them to begin with.
It's absolutely ridiculous that any semi auto "short" barrel gun be restricted anyway.
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