Was the CZ-75 designed for hammer down carry or cocked and locked carry?

[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

So I talked to Thomas at Cajun Gun Works today, and he said that the CZ-75 was designed to be carried in a holster with the hammer down and safety off for a first DA shot. For some reason, I always thought that 75 was designed to be carried as cocked and locked because of the 1911/Hi Power-like safety. Is that what you folks have found out?

[himurax13]

Hammer down seems to be the preferred method but cocked and locked is another option. Some don't like the latter due to the shape/size of the safety or the lack of a positive feel from the detent spring.

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[Desmo900]

I think either is fine but consistency is key. The DA/SA design is flexible vs the SA only which is condition one all the time while carried.


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[briang2ad]

The original had a safety that was QUITE positive.  The accepted combat weapons at the time were MOSTLY C/L:  Browning HP and 1911.  DA/SA had appeared as the Walther P38, and SIG was then coming out with the P220, and the Beretta 92 was just coming out.  The gun was designed for export into this market environment. 

It was EASIER to design a weapon like this with both options but a good manual safety than say, the BD model.  I have never heard that the original designer did it to be DA with hammer down, but it is clearly possible and the preferred method for many.  It is the only newer wondernine that COULD be carried C/L and this is how it became famous through the late Jeff Cooper.  So pick a theory. 

[larryflew]

And then add half cocked to the mix.  IMO it is designed for C/L OR hammer down OR half cocked so it could compete market wise with every one elses pistol.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I wouldn't say it was intended to be one or the other but both. Preference and skill level of the user.

[briang2ad]

If you properly decock you end up in half cock excepting competition. 

[hodge]

The option IS the reason that I originally fell in love with CZ's. I prefer C/L.
My opinion- it depends on which format you have. If it has a manual safety, it's better to carry C/L, than to manually decock. If it
has a decocker, it's designed to be carried in DA.

[retteryer]

Since it was designed in Chechoslovakia it is 100% designed to be hammer down,no round in the barrel,while cocked and locked with round in a pipe is more of a Wild Wild West/American way to carry.

[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

Since it was designed in Chechoslovakia it is 100% designed to be hammer down,no round in the barrel,while cocked and locked with round in a pipe is more of a Wild Wild West/American way to carry.

In general, would you say that European pistols are more fond of a hammer down design?

[himurax13]

Since it was designed in Chechoslovakia it is 100% designed to be hammer down,no round in the barrel,while cocked and locked with round in a pipe is more of a Wild Wild West/American way to carry.

Hammer down with no round in the chamber? That sounds like U.S. military nonsense.

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[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

Since it was designed in Chechoslovakia it is 100% designed to be hammer down,no round in the barrel,while cocked and locked with round in a pipe is more of a Wild Wild West/American way to carry.

Hammer down with no round in the chamber? That sounds like U.S. military nonsense.

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That sounds very much like US Military procedure with 1911's or the British military with the Hi Power back in the day. Aside from that, a lot of European countries with DA autoloaders always seemed to be carried in condition 2.

[retteryer]

I think with all of the strict rules to the civilians,same apply to European police.Thats why I think Condition 3/Israeli carry is the most common and fool proof way to carry there.My CCL instructor was an ex Israeli special forces guy,he was training us to rack the slide while you extending your hand forward and pointing your gun after unholstering,so by the time your hand is fully extended,slide is already racked and round is  in the chamber,sights on target.And he was very efficient in that,whole process would take him fraction of a second.Thats the way I prefer to carry,especially if I carry my S&W MP 2.0 compact.

[himurax13]

I think with all of the strict rules to the civilians,same apply to European police.Thats why I think Condition 3/Israeli carry is the most common and fool proof way to carry there.My CCL instructor was an ex Israeli special forces guy,he was training us to rack the slide while you extending your hand forward and pointing your gun after unholstering,so by the time your hand is fully extended,slide is already racked and round is  in the chamber,sights on target.And he was very efficient in that,whole process would take him fraction of a second.Thats the way I prefer to carry,especially if I carry my S&W MP 2.0 compact.

Why bother even carrying then? That method assumes that both hands are available, the workspace is clear, and that you are capable of consciously performing the task while under stress. Too many factors to go wrong if the need to draw the gun occurs. To me that is practicing to fail and fail hard.

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[retteryer]

I rarely carry,I live in a suburbs,nothing happens here and everywhere you go has a sign ?no Beretta?,you can have it in your car or outside,that is it.So I have no need or possibility to play Rambo 24/7.CCL for me it  is for Justin Case situation and to be able to trough it on the front seat when going to the range,