Why do so many people shy away from a double action auto?

[larry8061]

I'm an armed security guard, and my company frowns on DA/SA pistols. They allow them, but prefer that we carry striker fire.

THERE IS YOUR ANSWER. And they probably can't explain why. Long/heavy DA pull could save an innocent life. Concealed Carry and ooops don't go well together.

[DOC 1500]

I'm an armed security guard, and my company frowns on DA/SA pistols. They allow them, but prefer that we carry striker fire.

THERE IS YOUR ANSWER. And they probably can't explain why. Long/heavy DA pull could save an innocent life. Concealed Carry and ooops don't go well together.

I'd be willing to bet it's more like the insurance companies frown upon double action single action.
If the insurance companies and or companies knew what they were talking about might be a different story most of them don't have a clue.

[Claymore504]

I think there is a bad rumor going on out there that the first DA pull is horrible and can't be a good thing. Striker guns are simple for the new gun owner to pull out of a box and start pumping round down range. For my self I had a bad taste of DA/SA with worn out Beretta M9 pistols I encountered in the Army. I never gave them a thought when it came time to start buying personal guns.

The trigger reach of that first DA pull is also an issue for many people. I am actually starting to convert to nothing but DA/SA for carry / duty use.

This video from Chris makes good points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daSYE1PughE

Then there is Ernest Langdon, who I believe is a pioneer in the resurection of people chosing DA/SA over striker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m42IJIreRoc

[AMM]

Thanks for posting the Langdon video.  Makes excellent sense!   

[CZ_FANATIC]

I'm an armed security guard, and my company frowns on DA/SA pistols. They allow them, but prefer that we carry striker fire.

THERE IS YOUR ANSWER. And they probably can't explain why. Long/heavy DA pull could save an innocent life. Concealed Carry and ooops don't go well together.

I'd be willing to bet it's more like the insurance companies frown upon double action single action.
If the insurance companies and or companies knew what they were talking about might be a different story most of them don't have a clue.

My employers are a bunch of hypocrites! We did third quarter qualifying yesterday and one them used a Sig P229 DA/SA

[David0408]

I took my brand new SP-01 TAC to a shooting class and the instructor picked up my gun and used it as an example of an older style pistol. Fair enough, it is. He then pointed to someone in the back that had a “hell of a pistol”. I looking back there and saw a black G19. I took my PCR to another shooting class a few months later and the instructor walked by someone and stopped in his tracks and said “that is a phenomenal firearm!”. I craned my neck to see what is was and it was an OD green G19. Sheep.


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[DOC 1500]

Obviously a block guy.

[M1A4ME]

I took my brand new SP-01 TAC to a shooting class and the instructor picked up my gun and used it as an example of an older style pistol. Fair enough, it is. He then pointed to someone in the back that had a “hell of a pistol”. I looking back there and saw a black G19. I took my PCR to another shooting class a few months later and the instructor walked by someone and stopped in his tracks and said “that is a phenomenal firearm!”. I craned my neck to see what is was and it was an OD green G19. Sheep.


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Some people just don't realize you can shoot patterns with a shotgun, too.

Pistols (and rifles) are what you use for groups. 

[MadDuner]

Meh, everybody is free to make their own choices.
I am just grateful to have all the choices we have!

[David0408]

Two different guys from two different ranges ,but, yeah.


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[David0408]

Meh, everybody is free to make their own choices.
I am just grateful to have all the choices we have!

Amen


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[OldGringo]

I always look to the analogy of learning to drive an automatic (striker fired) vs. a manual transmission (DA/SA).

If you need to learn to drive a car as quickly as possible to pass a driving test, than learning on an automatic transmission will be the most efficient option.

However, (and I say this as someone who learned to drive on a manual) if you invest the time, I think learning manual transmission makes you a more effective and attentive driver. At least you can always transition to an automatic transmission easily. The opposite is not true. I own a P10C and have no problems shooting it or my DA/SA pistols.

Case in point, l learned to shoot on Glocks and I shot them with basic proficiency. However, when it came time to purchase a pistol of my own I opted for a CZ 75 BD (not my last DA/SA CZ). The de-cocker was kind of important here since I could more easily practice those two trigger pulls.

I did this because I knew that basic proficiency was not enough and I wanted to get better. If you want to be able to quickly and accurately get off the first shot in DA drawn from a holster and transition the following shot to SA, it takes more training, dry fire, and live fire trigger time. The thing is, regardless of the pistol, you can never get enough of any of these and we all probably don't (I know I could do more).

Now I'm no pistol badass or expert marksman however; I've noticed over time, that I am a more proficient shooter than my friends and acquaintances who started pistol shooting at the same time as me. They all opted for striker-fired and they thought "That's pretty good. In fact, that's good enough." and thus went to the range less often. Over time that really begins to tell.

Lastly, I remember one of said acquaintances shooting my SP-01 Tactical at the range a few months ago. He loaded the mag, racked the slide, noticed at the cocked hammer, pointed to it, and asked "what about this?" of course I told him to just shoot it in single action since it was from the bench and not holstered.

I never want to be that guy. Similar to pointing at the clutch pedal on a manual car and asking "what's this thing do?"

[radagast]

   It's sort of like a conversation I had with my Brother in Law, Who was extolling the virtues of striker fired pistols. When he commented on how antiquated the hammer was, I just replied " Strikers are just fine ! So is the missionary position" !  I wound up LMAO because he thought I was referring to firing line stance !

[jwc007]

When he commented on how antiquated the hammer was

Actually, the very first 9x19mm handgun, the P'08 Luger Pistol, was striker fired.

https://youtu.be/8DBYV6s1lvo

Funny how it was replaced by a Pistol with a Hammer, the Walther P-38.
Here are mine.


Walther AC44 P38
S/42 Mauser 1936 Luger

[Backwoods]

I think the answer to this question, and maybe it was already addressed, applies mostly to DAO vs striker fired. Most striker fired handguns have better triggers than DAO hammer fired handguns, but not as good of triggers than their DA/SA hammer fired counterparts in SA.