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Offline Metal Wonder Nine Guy

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Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:51:16 PM »
The handful of P10C's and F's I've seen in stores have very stiff slide stops, which makes me wonder if the stop is useable as a slide release. These guns were factory new so it is understandable that they are stiff when new. I'd like to hear any feedback from you folks with P10 variants.

Offline Tok36

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2019, 04:27:53 PM »
From my experience with 75 variants the stiffness and usability of the slide stop/release can vary from the factory. Even on the bad ones it can be tuned to improve function significantly. I assume that the same goes for the P-10's. I to am interested to hear more from those with first hand experience with the model.
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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 04:31:46 PM »
There are threads on the M&P Forum and the Beno Forum about M&P's breaking their slide stops.  The 2.0's seem to be the issue.

Some have stated that the 2.0 slide stop is only a slide stop, not a slide release and the only proper way to release the slide after an empty magazine slide lock to the rear is to use the opposite hand to "sling shot" the slide to chamber that 1st round from the next magazine.

Not sure of the P10 design/set up but if it's similar to the M&P 2.0 there could be issues in the future.

Some people have replaced their 2.0 slide stops with 1.0 slide stops (magazine insertion releases the slide to chamber the next round so no one has to forcibly push downwards on the slide stop "button" which transfers some stress to the "leg" of the slide stop between the "button" and the front/pin of the slide lock.

Yes, others on those forums pointed out what they see as a flaw in the design in the case of you not being able to use the opposite hand for some reason.

I ordered a 1.0 slide stop/spring for my 2.0 the other day and will probably replace it next week.
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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 05:18:00 PM »
Currently there is a thread on the CZ forum of the Brian Enos Forums discussing this. There have been other threads on here and benos also.  Here is my experience.  I have two P-10 Cs.  Out of the box, my slide stop/release was so stiff it was basically unuseable as a slide release, on both guns.  After a lot of shooting, dry firing and dropping the slide on loaded and unloaded mags, both are serviceable.  As serviceable as a Glock?  No, but they continue to improve with use and the triggers are so much better than my Glock that I am willing to put up with the slide stop/release as they get better.

You can also speed up the wearing in process by judicious sanding and polishing of the mating areas of the slide stop/release.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2019, 05:55:16 PM »
I have 2018 P10C FDE. The slide stop works fine as a release.


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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2019, 06:55:26 PM »
My first P10C was a bit stiff so I polished it a bit and it?s been fine since.  My second P10C just got shot a bunch and within a fairly low round count (maybe 500-800) it was fine as well.  Both are smooth enough to be able to auto release the slide if I want to now.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2019, 09:45:58 PM »
Mine (FDE) works fine as a release.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2019, 08:54:01 PM »
Mine was pretty stiff when new, after 2500 rds and plenty of break in , it releases fine now.
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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 02:12:05 AM »
I have a m&p 9c and it has a slide stop, not slide release. So need to power stroke. The manuel says so.

The p10c is just very stiff. Need to play with it while watching tv.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 06:16:41 AM »
Mine was pretty stiff when new, after 2500 rds and plenty of break in , it releases fine now.

Yes, the slide release becomes easier with use.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2019, 10:12:09 PM »
Mine is brand new, suppressor ready, ambi everything, born on 11/18 USA made. On an empty mag its impossible to release slide, but if I activate from both sides of slide release buttons it will release but it is hard. now with a loaded mag she releases just fine from one side. My other guns release easily whether with empty or full mags. If I slam the mag in she auto releases slide, I like that. I want to pick up some snap caps so I can do this on the couch to smooth it out more, any snap cap recommendations?

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2019, 04:27:24 PM »
Slam the loaded mag in the grip and the slide closes by it`s self. No need to use the slide stop lever as a slide release...... ;D

joke asside....mine is stiff aswell, but usable as a slide release....

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2019, 10:35:11 PM »
3x p10c
1x P10f OR

My C?s were significantly stiffer than my F to start, with my FDE being the hardest to drop the slide. I was forced to used the slingshot method which I don?t prefer on that one for several range visits. I also didn?t trust it for IDPA use until into it for a few months. After a little break in, they all function reliably as releases with the F working in that capacity right out of the box.

The F is my only US made gun.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2019, 01:15:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure that the p10 style release feels a little stuff due to it being a bar type ambi control. if you pull on the other side at the same time with your index finger it's easy as hell to drop the slide on an empty mag. Also, with a loaded mag inserted or with no mag inserted it's easier to use. Not that you'd wanna even do that.

Inertia reloads are also pretty common with this gun. Don't recommend relying on it for the obvious reason of consistency but also because unlike say a Glock, the p10 doesn't have a mag stop in the frame. If you use base pads on your mags you may get a little extra room to overinsert the mag. Slamming it home on a locked slide could bend the ejector over time. At least that's my concern.

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Re: Can the P10 series slide stop be used a slide release?
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2019, 12:49:27 AM »
My F will auto index when a full mag is inserted.....aka.....the proper way to load this firearm.