Are the P-07 and P-09 triggers the same?

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In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

I think somebody's nose has a little bit longer than it was before.
If those are actual trigger pull weights out of the box, you are the first one ,EVER, to have trigger pulls like that.
If those numbers are correct, that means that after putting in cgw reduced power Springs and doing all of the suggested polishing on that particular pistol po7 or po9 you own, you should end up with a 3# DA and a 3/4 #SA.🤥
JMHO

I would say that changing to an internal group that includes CGW parts creates a new set of characteristics. It does not change previous performance characteristics by a set pre-determined factor.

You're right the predetermined factor is a bullet firing using Clockwork type settings. The Clockwork doesn't change just a force it takes to make it work.

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The P07 DUTY always feels very good to me - unless I've been shooting something with a better trigger right before I shoot it.

When I go to the range - I do my best to shoot the harshest triggered guns first, and end with the nicest ones last.  Going the other way around make it not seem as enjoyable of an outing.

I usually go with one, sometimes as many as three, to either try out a new pistol with others to compare it to, or to try out some new loads/ammo and see how it shoots in multiple pistols.

The other day I had the new M&P 2.0 5'' FDE 9MM at the range and nothing was shooting really nice groups in it.  Even the 115 grain PD hollow points/Blue Dot loads that all my CZ seem to just "love" didn't print nice groups. 

The trigger (APEX 100-154) is some kind of awesome.  You can't help but love it.  I think it's 3.5 lbs. now.  But, the combination of reset (you can hear and feel it), the way the spot where it resets is the spot where you stop forward movment and the crispness of the trigger pull at that point (it's 3.5 lbs. but the darn thing has very little to no rearward movement between reset and BANG!) is awesome and somewhat difficult to get used to vs. the (even the nice ones) triggers on my carry CZ's. 

I usuallly don't, but this time I did, pulled my P07 out of the IWB holster and shot 5 rounds of the 135 grain Noslers over Blue Dot.  The group was pretty awesome.  Made the new M&P look pretty rough/bad.  But I noticed the difference in the way the trigger worked.  Even though the old DUTY P07 is about 3 or 3&1/4 lbs. SA, it is very different than the M&P.

In some ways, the M&P approaches the Tactical Sport trigger pull.  No nearly as "light" but so crisp.  I guess a combination of the straight triggers both have plus the crispness does that.  I have two steel framed CZ's with the spur hammers on them from CZ USA that are so crisp they feel lighter than the 3 lbs. they meausre at but the curved triggers may make another difference in how they "feel".

My P07 has the old DUTY curved trigger and I'm fine with it.  The P09 9MM has the next generation trigger, not really curved, not really straight but it's okay and I don't noticed the difference between how the two feel on my finger.  But, the P09 .40 that came with the same trigger as the 9MM P09 was painful to shoot.  Pinched the bottom of my trigger finger and was unpleasant to shoot after a magazine or two.  I bought/installed a DUTY trigger in it, removed a little plastic off the inside/bottom of the trigger guard where the older style trigger rubbed and now that P09 is just fine, too.

So, might be true for others, trigger shape can make a difference in how a trigger pull feels, to some people.

I guess two things come out of this discussion.

One, you can get lucky and buy a P07/P09 with a nice trigger pull.

Two, you can buy the parts to make your P07/P09 have a nice trigger pull if you aren't happy with what you bought.

Personally, the reliability, accuracy and the way they fit/feel in my hand makes it worth the extra money to make my trigger finger "happy."

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One, you can get lucky and buy a P07/P09 with a nice trigger pull.

Two, you can buy the parts to make your P07/P09 have a nice trigger pull if you aren't happy with what you bought.

This is a "maybe" - and yes, you can improve them most of the time.  The first statement is "yea and amen"!!! 

The P07 and P09 triggers after 2014 are the same thing.

They do vary all over the map from excellent and something almost ideal on a DA/SA to absolutely horrible.  I have several.  Its a fact.  I've tested MANY at gun shows, and the truth is that they vary widely.

Just looked at a review and the reviewer OTB got a P07 with a 7 LB DA.  Unreal.  Most CGW guns aren't that good - but he may have been hallucinating. 

I have had two horrible ones.  One went back to CZ USA and came back very good, and is now likely my best after more shooting and polishing.  One went back to CZ and is still mediocre at best - after replacing almost everything and polishing the snot out of it.  Ask CGW - some cannot be redeemed.  I think the frames are warped. 

In any case, yes they are exactly the same, but CZ is all over the map in execution.