Are the P-07 and P-09 triggers the same?

[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

Since both pf these pistols use the Omega trigger system, do they have the same trigger pulls for single action and double action?

[radagast]

     Rented and fired them both side by side with my Wife, and found them to be almost identical. The only difference between the two was balance point. I was surprised by the similarity in recoil too. I expected more flip from the P07. Finally decided on the P07, although grouping was better with the P09. Capacity wasn't an issue being from gUNfriendly NJ, and I just liked the balance of the  P07 better.

[timetofly]

In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

[Raining_Brass]

Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Not really because they vary A LOT due to tolerance stacking.

Hope that contradictory answer helped.

[M1A4ME]

You'd be a lucky buyer if you bought one of each, even in the same caliber, and the trigger pulls were the same.

There are specs of all the parts and pieces.  Specs on width, height, surface roughness (or smoothness, depending on how you look at it), etc., etc., etc.  Sometimes the parts are in spec and the trigger pull is wonderful.  Sometimes the parts are in spec and you hate the trigger pull.

[radagast]

In my last post, I spoke of my rental experience with the P07 and P09. While they were virtually the same, I must admit that there was a world of difference between my P07 and the Wife's P07. Mine OOB was not nearly as nice as the rented pistols, and took a lot of firing and polishing to become acceptable. My Wife's P07 was a dream OOB and just keeps getting better. It's even nicer than my daughter's P226, which I think of as superb.
     Sorry that doesn't speak well of CZ factory consistency; but it's a fact, and I still feel they're great pistols. I think a P01 will be my next.       

[MadDuner]

The trigger in my new P-07 was terribly gritty and rough.  I disassembled it all and polished all of the relevant pieces. Huge difference, although the camming and creep of the sear/hammer relationship is going to get fixed.  I ordered the Cajun Pro Kit for it.  I expect it will be about perfect then!

[SSGN_Doc]

I have two P07s. My first one was kind of ?stagey? (it seemed to stack and unstack in stages along the DA pull).  I did a little internal cleanup and a couple thousand rounds of use, and it has become a very decent trigger.  My second one came out of the box almost equal to my broken-in one.

[DOC 1500]

In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

I think somebody's nose has a little bit longer than it was before.
If those are actual trigger pull weights out of the box, you are the first one ,EVER, to have trigger pulls like that.
If those numbers are correct, that means that after putting in cgw reduced power Springs and doing all of the suggested polishing on that particular pistol po7 or po9 you own, you should end up with a 3# DA and a 3/4 #SA.🤥
JMHO

[M1A4ME]

My DUTY P07 .40 S&W came out of the box with either a 3&1/4 or 3&1/2 lb. SA trigger pull.  DA was up in the 8&1/2 lb. range.  Installation of the CGW reduced power trigger return spring and firing pin block spring a few months back dropped the SA and DA another 1/2 lb.

The P09 9MM was about 1/4 to 1/2 lb. heavier and a little rougher.  The P09 .40 S&W wasn't as nice as either of the first two.

The P07 DUTY always feels very good to me - unless I've been shooting something with a better trigger right before I shoot it.

[timetofly]

In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

I think somebody's nose has a little bit longer than it was before.
If those are actual trigger pull weights out of the box, you are the first one ,EVER, to have trigger pulls like that.
If those numbers are correct, that means that after putting in cgw reduced power Springs and doing all of the suggested polishing on that particular pistol po7 or po9 you own, you should end up with a 3# DA and a 3/4 #SA.🤥
JMHO

Dear Doc,

When I first brought home the P-07 with the 3.5# SA trigger pull, I asked the forum if this was normal.  The replies were that a light pull was possible and that I received an excellent one.  Fast forward three months and I bought a P-09 that had a normal CZ trigger.  I decided that I would try to polish a few parts to make things better.  I was successful. I will assure you that ALL of the parts in both of these pistols are the originals that came from CZ.  No parts from CZC or CGW were put in, no springs changed.  I just checked my Wheeler Trigger Pull Scale by lifting an object that weighs 3 lbs 7 ozs and it read 3.5 lbs on the scale so that can be ruled out.   

At this point we'll have to agree to disagree.   Good luck and have a great week.

[DOC 1500]

In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

I think somebody's nose has a little bit longer than it was before.
If those are actual trigger pull weights out of the box, you are the first one ,EVER, to have trigger pulls like that.
If those numbers are correct, that means that after putting in cgw reduced power Springs and doing all of the suggested polishing on that particular pistol po7 or po9 you own, you should end up with a 3# DA and a 3/4 #SA.🤥
JMHO

Dear Doc,

When I first brought home the P-07 with the 3.5# SA trigger pull, I asked the forum if this was normal.  The replies were that a light pull was possible and that I received an excellent one.  Fast forward three months and I bought a P-09 that had a normal CZ trigger.  I decided that I would try to polish a few parts to make things better.  I was successful. I will assure you that ALL of the parts in both of these pistols are the originals that came from CZ.  No parts from CZC or CGW were put in, no springs changed.  I just checked my Wheeler Trigger Pull Scale by lifting an object that weighs 3 lbs 7 ozs and it read 3.5 lbs on the scale so that can be ruled out.   

At this point we'll have to agree to disagree.   Good luck and have a great week.

the reason I said all that was because around the same time you got your po9 I got mine. Everybody else that bought one  at that particular time had anywhere from a nine to a 10 lb double action and  a  6 to 7 lb single action.
My da was 10.2 sa 6.5 .
Only after all the suggested polishing and some polishing that needed to be done that I discovered on the hammer along with cgw reduced power spring I was able to get it down to about a 5.8 da and 2.8 SA.
Sorry but it just seemed pretty strange that yours was way out of the numbers that I had read about or trigger pull weight said anybody else had expressed at that given time.
At this point in time  on the forum everybody was talking about po7 and po9 9mm.
Read back in the Forum three years ago you'll see.

[MadDuner]

The P07 DUTY always feels very good to me - unless I've been shooting something with a better trigger right before I shoot it.

When I go to the range - I do my best to shoot the harshest triggered guns first, and end with the nicest ones last.  Going the other way around make it not seem as enjoyable of an outing.

[DWARREN]

Both my P-09 and P-07 feel the same to me, they also look alike.
Good feeling pistols that are accurate.

[Goju]

In theory they should be the same.  My experience was a P-07 (2014) came out of the box with a 3.5# trigger SA and extremely smooth DA.  A P-09 (2016) was the typical CZ trigger.  Trigger pull was 5.0# SA and a rough DA.  A little polishing on the internals and the P-09 is almost as smooth as the P-07 DA and has a 3.75# SA. 

I hope that this is what you were looking for and I didn't misunderstand your question.

I think somebody's nose has a little bit longer than it was before.
If those are actual trigger pull weights out of the box, you are the first one ,EVER, to have trigger pulls like that.
If those numbers are correct, that means that after putting in cgw reduced power Springs and doing all of the suggested polishing on that particular pistol po7 or po9 you own, you should end up with a 3# DA and a 3/4 #SA.🤥
JMHO

I would say that changing to an internal group that includes CGW parts creates a new set of characteristics. It does not change previous performance characteristics by a set pre-determined factor.