Just found this company trigger reduction kit

[Rmach]

Thank you, 200 S&B and 200 Magtech.  Wednesday was 115gr S&B and Thursday was 124gr, so two different lot numbers of S&B, same lot with the 200 Magtech.

[nonamehavei]

Based on this thread and the accompanying review I looked up these kits and ordered 2 standard 75 kits and 2 P07/P09 kits. Gotta say, not at all impressed. I have cajun spring kits in a pcr and  P01, and full pro kits in a P01 and another P07, so far the only observation I have is my trigger reset is hit or miss. Probably pull the entire kit out and chuck it. IMHO save your money and time and but the CGW parts.

[Rmach]

Based on this thread and the accompanying review I looked up these kits and ordered 2 standard 75 kits and 2 P07/P09 kits. Gotta say, not at all impressed. I have cajun spring kits in a pcr and  P01, and full pro kits in a P01 and another P07, so far the only observation I have is my trigger reset is hit or miss. Probably pull the entire kit out and chuck it. IMHO save your money and time and but the CGW parts.

Well i flat out don't believe your story. Almost a 50% reduction in trigger pull on mine and two other reviewers.

[JD Miller]

Just light springs isnt gonna do everything needed


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[Rmach]

Just light springs isnt gonna do everything needed


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You're right, spend another $200 to get the full effect, or spend $20 and get a very noticeable mprovement.

[nonamehavei]

Based on this thread and the accompanying review I looked up these kits and ordered 2 standard 75 kits and 2 P07/P09 kits. Gotta say, not at all impressed. I have cajun spring kits in a pcr and  P01, and full pro kits in a P01 and another P07, so far the only observation I have is my trigger reset is hit or miss. Probably pull the entire kit out and chuck it. IMHO save your money and time and but the CGW parts.

Well i flat out don't believe your story. Almost a 50% reduction in trigger pull on mine and two other reviewers.

Meh, that works out, I don’t believe yours either [emoji23]

[Earl Keese]

I don't doubt that a simple spring change can reduce DA pull weight by as much 50%, I've seen it. When someone claims a $20 spring kit "turned my plain Jane 75B into a Shadow Orange", well that's just silly.
 It's a cheap spring kit, nothing more nothing less. It doesn't reduce trigger travel, eliminate the fpb, or shorten and smooth hammer hooks. Implying that there is some "magic" to be found here is a disservice to new people that come here looking for credible information on how to improve their pistol.
 I've done a couple trigger jobs for friends with limited budgets. Just springs and polishing, no race hammers or short reset kits. While they were happy with the improvement over oem, they don't compare to a full trigger job with quality parts.
 The true test will be when users actually put several thousand rounds through Mcarbo equipped guns.

[Ballista]

My results with this kit. Before install DA= 11 lb+ SA = 5.5 lb after install DA= 9 lb SA = 4 LB. Installed on stock 75 b compact nothing polished. Its not a TSO nor did I expect it to be. It did not ship the same day or the next day as promised ont the web site (just saying) the company did respond promptly to inquiries.

[Rmach]

I don't doubt that a simple spring change can reduce DA pull weight by as much 50%, I've seen it. When someone claims a $20 spring kit "turned my plain Jane 75B into a Shadow Orange", well that's just silly.
 It's a cheap spring kit, nothing more nothing less. It doesn't reduce trigger travel, eliminate the fpb, or shorten and smooth hammer hooks. Implying that there is some "magic" to be found here is a disservice to new people that come here looking for credible information on how to improve their pistol.
 I've done a couple trigger jobs for friends with limited budgets. Just springs and polishing, no race hammers or short reset kits. While they were happy with the improvement over oem, they don't compare to a full trigger job with quality parts.
 The true test will be when users actually put several thousand rounds through Mcarbo equipped guns.

No it's not silly, my Shadow Orange has pretravel and some creep with a short reset. The MCARBO kit doesn't change any of that, nor did I expect it to, but just the trigger pull reduction alone makes my plain Jane CZ75b feel like a custom handgun, just as the Shadow feels like a custom handgun.  Nothing silly about that. Keep in mind, it's a $20 trigger spring kit, not a $200+ polished trigger job.

On my CZ75b, the results are remarkable, and I'm just sharing that experience, nothing more. I guess some people feel that have to defend the status quo, and not welcome new ideas and products.  I do agree that the true test will be after thousands of rounds fired.

[Earl Keese]

My results with this kit. Before install DA= 11 lb+ SA = 5.5 lb after install DA= 9 lb SA = 4 LB. Installed on stock 75 b compact nothing polished. Its not a TSO nor did I expect it to be. It did not ship the same day or the next day as promised ont the web site (just saying) the company did respond promptly to inquiries.

^^^^^ Realistic results right here. ^^^^^

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[schmeky]

Earl,

Thank you for the voice or reason in your post #51. 

[recoilguy]

People asked for reviews....
The guy gave his review,
Then because it wasn't what some had hoped for he gets told he is wrong.
It's his opinion. That's a review. Maybe more work could be done...
maybe it could get better, maybe it's not a everyones favorite trigger job.
He is satisfied and he has numbers to back it up.

Is it a Shadow Orange, probably not....does this guy think so ? It appears that way.
Is he happy and is his gun funner to shoot? for him it is. Is he a card carrying member of the  full blown cajunized CZ club now? nope
does that mean he is telling a lie? No I don't think so. Let the guy be happy with what he got. Let him have his review that was asked for.
He gave a good review of an inexpensive option and he got blasted.....thank goodness it was by voices of reason of course. Pretty sure the lesson here is don't give a good review
especially if you have an opinion of anything, unless it is a good one for the chosen club or one that says someone elses is ok but its no $348 trigger job

RCG

[Rmach]

People asked for reviews....
The guy gave his review,
Then because it wasn't what some had hoped for he gets told he is wrong.
It's his opinion. That's a review. Maybe more work could be done...
maybe it could get better, maybe it's not a everyones favorite trigger job.
He is satisfied and he has numbers to back it up.

Is it a Shadow Orange, probably not....does this guy think so ? It appears that way.
Is he happy and is his gun funner to shoot? for him it is. Is he a card carrying member of the  full blown cajunized CZ club now? nope
does that mean he is telling a lie? No I don't think so. Let the guy be happy with what he got. Let him have his review that was asked for.
He gave a good review of an inexpensive option and he got blasted.....thank goodness it was by voices of reason of course. Pretty sure the lesson here is don't give a good review
especially if you have an opinion of anything unless it is a good one for the chosen club or one that says its ok but its no $348 trigger job

RCG

Thank you,  I was getting to the point of never posting a review again.  Also, I did say in my post somewhere that maybe I was exaggerating a bit about it comparing to my Shadow Orange.  It's not on Shadow Orange level, but it's also not a $1100-$1400 handgun. 

I purchased this brand new CZ75b for $450 delivered a couple years ago, blacked out the sights, added grips and this MCARBO trigger kit, and it has been improved tremendously IMO.  The total investment is well under $550.  At the range, this handgun is darn near as accurate as any of my S-2's and Shadow Orange. That's why I got pretty excited about the results with this MCARBO kit. I'm an old guy and do believe you get what you pay for, but once in a blue moon, you can get more than what you pay for.

[nonamehavei]

People asked for reviews....
The guy gave his review,
Then because it wasn't what some had hoped for he gets told he is wrong.
It's his opinion. That's a review. Maybe more work could be done...
maybe it could get better, maybe it's not a everyones favorite trigger job.
He is satisfied and he has numbers to back it up.

Is it a Shadow Orange, probably not....does this guy think so ? It appears that way.
Is he happy and is his gun funner to shoot? for him it is. Is he a card carrying member of the  full blown cajunized CZ club now? nope
does that mean he is telling a lie? No I don't think so. Let the guy be happy with what he got. Let him have his review that was asked for.
He gave a good review of an inexpensive option and he got blasted.....thank goodness it was by voices of reason of course. Pretty sure the lesson here is don't give a good review
especially if you have an opinion of anything, unless it is a good one for the chosen club or one that says someone elses is ok but its no $348 trigger job

RCG

Yeah, but whatever you do, don’t say that you tried it and don’t agree with his opinion cause he will call you a liar and accuse you of having an anti MCarBo agenda.

[Rmach]

People asked for reviews....
The guy gave his review,
Then because it wasn't what some had hoped for he gets told he is wrong.
It's his opinion. That's a review. Maybe more work could be done...
maybe it could get better, maybe it's not a everyones favorite trigger job.
He is satisfied and he has numbers to back it up.

Is it a Shadow Orange, probably not....does this guy think so ? It appears that way.
Is he happy and is his gun funner to shoot? for him it is. Is he a card carrying member of the  full blown cajunized CZ club now? nope
does that mean he is telling a lie? No I don't think so. Let the guy be happy with what he got. Let him have his review that was asked for.
He gave a good review of an inexpensive option and he got blasted.....thank goodness it was by voices of reason of course. Pretty sure the lesson here is don't give a good review
especially if you have an opinion of anything, unless it is a good one for the chosen club or one that says someone elses is ok but its no $348 trigger job

RCG

Yeah, but whatever you do, don’t say that you tried it and don’t agree with his opinion cause he will call you a liar and accuse you of having an anti MCarBo agenda.

Here you go again, you supposedly tried their kit in your P07 or P09 and NOT in a CZ75b. The kits are not the same, and you shouldn't post your opinion on a kit you haven't installed and tried. I can dig back and show you where you said that, but I won't stoop to that level.  Now you can post in the next day or two that you installed it in your CZ75b and it's garbage.