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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2019, 02:05:32 PM »
Once again it doesn't matter, nonamehavi is stating his opinion. It may or may not be the same as yours.
He is having trouble with the trigger reset. which would be a problem for me as well. So he's gonna stick with what he knows and knows works.
You installed it and it is everything you wanted it to be. Plus it saved you some money as well.
He is having trigger reset issues, which has little or nothing to do with reduction in trigger pull feel. So not believing him and using an unrelated topic
to call him out is bad form as well IMHO.

The problem with opinions is rarely are 2 peoples the same. And on the internet things really get wonky.

Have your opinion, express it if you dare. If others opinions are contrary accept that they have a different expectation, or possibly a bad part, or an agenda.
Then move forward.

Thank you for posting your opinion and taking time to put the kit in and get us some real numbers. Numbers make opinions more credible. Or less at times.
Your expectations were meet. His were not. 2 people 2 opinions. no need to call anyone a liar or to lambast someone for liking something other than the holy grail of trigger work.

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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2019, 02:38:48 PM »
Once again it doesn't matter, nonamehavi is stating his opinion. It may or may not be the same as yours.
He is having trouble with the trigger reset. which would be a problem for me as well. So he's gonna stick with what he knows and knows works.
You installed it and it is everything you wanted it to be. Plus it saved you some money as well.
He is having trigger reset issues, which has little or nothing to do with reduction in trigger pull feel. So not believing him and using an unrelated topic
to call him out is bad form as well IMHO.

The problem with opinions is rarely are 2 peoples the same. And on the internet things really get wonky.

Have your opinion, express it if you dare. If others opinions are contrary accept that they have a different expectation, or possibly a bad part, or an agenda.
Then move forward.

Thank you for posting your opinion and taking time to put the kit in and get us some real numbers. Numbers make opinions more credible. Or less at times.
Your expectations were meet. His were not. 2 people 2 opinions. no need to call anyone a liar or to lambast someone for liking something other than the holy grail of trigger work.

RCG

I agree with you, but he did not install the MCARBO kit in his CZ75b, according to his post on the review  thread I started.  However, he felt it necessary to post his opinion on my review thread even though it was not the model he tested. I have no idea how the P07 kit functions after the kit is installed, nor would I post anything about it if I didn't install and test it. Apples and Oranges, two different models and kits.

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Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2019, 12:31:46 PM »
An update for anyone who might be interested in the MCARBO kit for the P-series polymer pistols, NOT the kit for the 75 classic series. I reached out to MCARBO in regards to the issues I was having with the kit post installation. I received an email from Patrick at MCARBO saying that they do have this issue from time to time with the P-series polymer pistols and they are ending me out the proper springs to remedy the issue. So A+ for MCARBO on customer service, I will update with results after the new springs arrive.
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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2019, 12:49:00 PM »
Thank you for the honest update and presenting it as you say you do

honest and without an agenda. I hope it fixes the problem, so your gun works and has no issues.

A gun with issues is a gun that is hard to want to use.

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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2019, 01:06:59 PM »
An update for anyone who might be interested in the MCARBO kit for the P-series polymer pistols, NOT the kit for the 75 classic series. I reached out to MCARBO in regards to the issues I was having with the kit post installation. I received an email from Patrick at MCARBO saying that they do have this issue from time to time with the P-series polymer pistols and they are ending me out the proper springs to remedy the issue. So A+ for MCARBO on customer service, I will update with results after the new springs arrive.

Thank you, thank you, for directly saying it was a problem with your P-series and not a CZ75b.  Two different designed kits, and from what I understand, the P07 kit comes with 1000 grit sandpaper to smooth down the rough areas.  The CZ75b kit does not come with sandpaper probably because it's not needed.  I did send MCARBO a note about including a new trigger pin in their kits.  I hope you install the CZ75b kit now.  If your results are anywhere near mine, you'll be a very happy camper.

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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2019, 03:49:09 PM »
An update for anyone who might be interested in the MCARBO kit for the P-series polymer pistols, NOT the kit for the 75 classic series. I reached out to MCARBO in regards to the issues I was having with the kit post installation. I received an email from Patrick at MCARBO saying that they do have this issue from time to time with the P-series polymer pistols and they are ending me out the proper springs to remedy the issue. So A+ for MCARBO on customer service, I will update with results after the new springs arrive.

Thank you, thank you, for directly saying it was a problem with your P-series and not a CZ75b.  Two different designed kits, and from what I understand, the P07 kit comes with 1000 grit sandpaper to smooth down the rough areas.  The CZ75b kit does not come with sandpaper probably because it's not needed.  I did send MCARBO a note about including a new trigger pin in their kits.  I hope you install the CZ75b kit now.  If your results are anywhere near mine, you'll be a very happy camper.
To clarify, this is an issue that MCARBO is aware of with the spring kits they offer and certain of the P series pistols, not just “my p-series” pistol. It does have to be a different kit because the entire firing system is different between the 2 pistols. I am curious because the hammer spring, which is what they are sending me, is the same between the polymer pistols and the classic 75 series pistols, as well as the trigger return spring, which is what I would assume would cause the trigger not to reset correctly. We will see when the new springs come in. And I have ordered 2 kits for the 75 series to test your theory and see if they will improve the classic lockwork better than the omega. Review to follow installation.
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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2019, 04:28:32 PM »
I don't see how the hammer spring can cause a reset issue.

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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2019, 05:33:22 PM »
Well here we go !!! This post that I made was only about the cz Compact not a po7 or a po9 etc. etc. bought 2 kits one for my Cz PCR Compact and one for my Cz Compact. Installed both kits did not install the sear spring in the PCR being it was a decoker polished all the trigger parts in the PCR . Did not polish any parts in the manual safety steel frame Cz Compact. Added the CGW floating trigger pin in both bought 1  roll pin for the firing pin retaining pin . Ck with digital trigger gauge PCR DA 7 pounds and 3 oz single action 3 pounds . Cz Compact manual safety steel frame DA 7 pounds single action 3 pounds . What a big difference from stock well worth what I spent I for one are very happy with it triggers are smooth now the PCR is even smoother guess because I polished all the internals .went to the range this week shot 400 rounds through the PCR NOT one hiccup at all shot 350 rounds through the steel manual safety NOT one hiccup what so ever , so for me I am a very happy with my purchase.
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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2019, 01:18:33 PM »
Well here we go !!! This post that I made was only about the cz Compact not a po7 or a po9 etc. etc. bought 2 kits one for my Cz PCR Compact and one for my Cz Compact. Installed both kits did not install the sear spring in the PCR being it was a decoker polished all the trigger parts in the PCR . Did not polish any parts in the manual safety steel frame Cz Compact. Added the CGW floating trigger pin in both bought 1  roll pin for the firing pin retaining pin . Ck with digital trigger gauge PCR DA 7 pounds and 3 oz single action 3 pounds . Cz Compact manual safety steel frame DA 7 pounds single action 3 pounds . What a big difference from stock well worth what I spent I for one are very happy with it triggers are smooth now the PCR is even smoother guess because I polished all the internals .went to the range this week shot 400 rounds through the PCR NOT one hiccup at all shot 350 rounds through the steel manual safety NOT one hiccup what so ever , so for me I am a very happy with my purchase.

Thanks for posting your results, similar to my results.

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« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2019, 07:44:37 PM »
Ok, the second CZ75b MCARBO kit is installed in my polished stainless CZ75b. This was an easier install once you have some practice. The large flared trigger pin came out easily, and it looked like I could reuse it, but I installed the CGW floating pin.

The end results are very impressive, just as my other 75b was. My digital luggage scale attached to a coat hanger says SA is at ~3lbs and DA is at ~7.7lbs. No polishing or cleaning done, just remove and replace. This trigger on the stainless gun has very little creep compared to my other 75b.  So this trigger has a little more pull weight in SA and DA than the other one, but due to less creep than the other one, feels better to me.  Both triggers are big improvement over stock.

I'll run 200rds through it Monday, and then go back Tuesday or wednesday and run another 200rds.

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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2019, 08:49:55 PM »
So an update for anyone interested in the MCARBO kit in the P series polymer pistol, I received and installed the new “lighter” P09/P07 springs from MCARBO. The trigger pull is very much improved,
Much closer to what I am used to from the CGW springs I have installed in the past. Also for some reason after 100 dry trigger pulls after the new spring install I did not have any more issues with the trigger not resetting all the way (still not sure how that worked out [emoji2957]) so I will have to revise my initial impression from not impressed to very impressed, I think that this kit, while certainly not comparable to a full cajun kit is definitely an improvement and a great value for the money. Once again A+ four star customer service and response from the guys at MCARBO.
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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2019, 09:42:47 PM »
So an update for anyone interested in the MCARBO kit in the P series polymer pistol, I received and installed the new “lighter” P09/P07 springs from MCARBO. The trigger pull is very much improved,
Much closer to what I am used to from the CGW springs I have installed in the past. Also for some reason after 100 dry trigger pulls after the new spring install I did not have any more issues with the trigger not resetting all the way (still not sure how that worked out [emoji2957]) so I will have to revise my initial impression from not impressed to very impressed, I think that this kit, while certainly not comparable to a full cajun kit is definitely an improvement and a great value for the money. Once again A+ four star customer service and response from the guys at MCARBO.


 Great review, you should be equally/more impressed with the CZ75b kits.  Please update your post on the thread I started.

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« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2019, 05:18:15 PM »
This was the first range visit with the 2nd MCARBO kit installed in my polished stainless CZ75b. Ran 100rds of S&B and 100 of Blazer Brass, all 115gr. Everything fired without a problem. 




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« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
Second range visit (4th overall) with MCARBO kit installed in my CZ75b polished stainless. Ran 200rds of 115gr Blazer Brass with no problems.

So in the last two weeks, I installed a MCARBO kit in my black CZ75b and in my CZ75b polished stainless, and went to the range four times firing 200rds for each visit with no light strikes or problems.  I have a third kit on its way for my Canik C100 or another CZ75b I'm eyeing right now.




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Re: Just found this company trigger reduction kit
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2019, 09:28:10 PM »
Second range visit (4th overall) with MCARBO kit installed in my CZ75b polished stainless. Ran 200rds of 115gr Blazer Brass with no problems.

So in the last two weeks, I installed a MCARBO kit in my black CZ75b and in my CZ75b polished stainless, and went to the range four times firing 200rds for each visit with no light strikes or problems.  I have a third kit on its way for my Canik C100 or another CZ75b I'm eyeing right now.
They should send you that third kit gratis.