Author Topic: DA/SA trigger finger placement  (Read 631 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dbarn

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 396
DA/SA trigger finger placement
« on: August 29, 2019, 12:49:01 PM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?

 

Offline recoilguy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1740
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 05:20:00 PM »
I would do not and would not use the first joint.
Why?
Because there is no advantage I can see.

RCG
What I lack in speed , I make up for with inaccuracy

Offline Blueknight

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 27
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 12:31:43 AM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?

It depends on a few things.  The trigger reach of the pistol, relative to the size of your hand, length of trigger travel, length of trigger finger, strength of trigger finger. 

So how can you know what is right FOR YOU?  Remember, the goal is being able to press the trigger to the rear without moving the pistol, ie., disturbing your sight alignment or sight picture. 

Using the pad is only a starting point, each individual will typically have to add more or less based on results and what works best for them.

Using the first pad is only a general starting point

Offline dbarn

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 396
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2019, 07:48:34 AM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?
So how can you know what is right FOR YOU?  Remember, the goal is being able to press the trigger to the rear without moving the pistol, ie., disturbing your sight alignment or sight picture. 

Exactly! My hands are medium and my fingers are long. With slim grips my trigger finger naturally aligns to the first joint. If I use the pad of the finger I tend to push my groups left. With the first joint my groups are more centered. Drawing the pistol and firing once at 10 yards in under 2 seconds also bears this out. I've always been taught to use between the first joint and tip regardless of hand size, and most likely with my long fingers, have been using the area near the first joint. If I commit to actually using the joint, I'm finding my hits are more consistent with dynamic shooting. 

Offline recoilguy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1740
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2019, 01:38:55 PM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?

It depends on a few things.  The trigger reach of the pistol, relative to the size of your hand, length of trigger travel, length of trigger finger, strength of trigger finger. 

So how can you know what is right FOR YOU?  Remember, the goal is being able to press the trigger to the rear without moving the pistol, ie., disturbing your sight alignment or sight picture. 

Using the pad is only a starting point, each individual will typically have to add more or less based on results and what works best for them.

Using the first pad is only a general starting point

Using the pad of your finger is the proper way to press your trigger
Finding a gun that fits your hand correctly is the starting point.

RCG
What I lack in speed , I make up for with inaccuracy

Offline Earl Keese

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3543
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2019, 04:38:16 PM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?

It depends on a few things.  The trigger reach of the pistol, relative to the size of your hand, length of trigger travel, length of trigger finger, strength of trigger finger. 

So how can you know what is right FOR YOU?  Remember, the goal is being able to press the trigger to the rear without moving the pistol, ie., disturbing your sight alignment or sight picture. 

Using the pad is only a starting point, each individual will typically have to add more or less based on results and what works best for them.

Using the first pad is only a general starting point

Using the pad of your finger is the proper way to press your trigger
Finding a gun that fits your hand correctly is the starting point.

RCG
I was listening to a podcast with Eric Grauffel yesterday. He says put your finger where it's comfortable for you based on your anatomy. It was very interesting to hear his opinions. Many of them were contrary to commonly accepted practices.

Offline recoilguy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1740
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2019, 05:11:36 PM »
Well if it comes down to whose opinion you should probably take mine or Eric Graufel
I'd take his opinion before mine.


RCG
What I lack in speed , I make up for with inaccuracy

Offline deadsh0t

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2019, 08:55:29 AM »
For those who compete and use a DA/SA trigger, are you using between the tip and first joint of finger, or do you use the first joint of your trigger finger?

Of those who use the first joint, can you tell me the advantages?

It depends on a few things.  The trigger reach of the pistol, relative to the size of your hand, length of trigger travel, length of trigger finger, strength of trigger finger. 

So how can you know what is right FOR YOU?  Remember, the goal is being able to press the trigger to the rear without moving the pistol, ie., disturbing your sight alignment or sight picture. 

Using the pad is only a starting point, each individual will typically have to add more or less based on results and what works best for them.

Using the first pad is only a general starting point

Using the pad of your finger is the proper way to press your trigger
Finding a gun that fits your hand correctly is the starting point.

RCG
I was listening to a podcast with Eric Grauffel yesterday. He says put your finger where it's comfortable for you based on your anatomy. It was very interesting to hear his opinions. Many of them were contrary to commonly accepted practices.

I'd take any opinion like that before any "DO THIS". I didn't use the pad of the finger when I used a glock 17 and I had much better shots using the first joint in any kind of shooting

Offline Ruber

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 524
DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 09:22:59 AM »
It has its limitations, in this case, I do find the pistol correction chart helps me find my center....


Take some time, do some drills isolating that one component, figure out how trigger placement with your grip and gun effects how you shoot.  You can then make an informed decision about your own placement.


Or you can find a shooter who matches your style on youtube (there are several) and watch what they do.  Just remember, there is no right answer for everyone, and you can always take bits and pieces from multiple sources.
 
« Last Edit: October 01, 2019, 09:48:33 AM by Ruber »

Offline CCWLearner

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 101
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2019, 04:25:03 PM »
I moved up from a small to a medium backstrap on my P-07 to help better align the pad of my trigger finger with the trigger.  It seemed to help my DA pull a fair amount.  Before I settled on the medium backstrap, I practiced with all three backstraps at home, dry firing with a MantisX, until I found the one that felt the most natural and produced the best results.

Offline dbarn

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 396
Re: DA/SA trigger finger placement
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2019, 04:55:23 PM »
Or you can find a shooter who matches your style on youtube (there are several) and watch what they do.  Just remember, there is no right answer for everyone, and you can always take bits and pieces from multiple sources.
 

That's a really good video about using more of your trigger finger. Recently I completely disassembled my SP-01 tactical and found that I am literally wearing a groove on the left side of my trigger pushing it against the frame unknowingly, while continuing to use the pad of my finger. What a wake up call. No question for my hand size and grip the first joint allows the trigger to come strait back and my hits are more centered as a result. Find what works for you!