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Offline MadDuner

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2019, 09:39:05 AM »
Troll OP is long gone, but we all enjoy talking to each other about our CZs anyway!

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2019, 11:46:59 AM »
...I suppose you should always handle a pistol before you buy it? Funny thing is the general word about CZs is if you handle one you will buy it! For myself it didn't take long after fondling a full size at my range for me to hit that "buy now" tab on Gun Broker :-)

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2019, 11:54:52 AM »
...I suppose you should always handle a pistol before you buy it? Funny thing is the general word about CZs is if you handle one you will buy it! For myself it didn't take long after fondling a full size at my range for me to hit that "buy now" tab on Gun Broker :-)

I walked into a gun store to buy a Canik TP9SFX.... and walked out with an SP-01 Tactical.
It’s been all CZ since then.

Offline granky

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2019, 12:10:03 PM »
Having owned a couple CZ handguns already and reading about the PCR, I assume it is more similar than not to the P01, I could tell it was what I wanted. The first time I handled one was at the gun shop which received the transfer. It for me is almost perfect and let's me forget about pointing and hitting a target easily, it just comes naturally. Now I have several polymers that need a new home. 

The only gun I have which I shoot as easily is believe it or not the original Walther PPS. Though the design and feel is significantly different it points and shoots right where I expect it to like the PCR. I'm done trying to shoot something that for me won't hit what I'm aiming at (M&P comes to mind).
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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2019, 01:42:40 PM »
I have small hands. I started off with 1911s. Wanted to move over to 9mm so started searching. Rented Sig Sauer 239, Sig Sauer P225 and a CZ P-06. I shot the Sigs very well I was just wary of Sig discontinuing pistols and sure enough the 239 is no more. The P-06 was not 9mm, it was the only CZ rental I could find at the time and I really liked it. I ended up buying a CZ 75 Compact, sent it to Cajun Gun Works to have the Pro Package and occasionally carry it. I tried Glock 43 and then the 43X which both fit my hands but I can't shoot them as well as my CZs. I bought a 99021 which is a steel framed P-01 in 9mm last year, that pistol is heavy. I never ended up using it, sold it off to pay for something else. I did like the beaver tail on the P-01 variants compared to the 75 Compact. I missed buying a Shadow Compact. Considering going with an SDP or a Shadow Compact if I can find one. A CZ P-01 can work with someone with small hands; slim grips, CZ 85 trigger with less curve, reach reduction on trigger from Cajun Gun Works or CZ Custom, or undercut trigger guard and high cut beaver tail.

Offline Walt Sherrill

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2019, 02:45:55 PM »
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He has small hands ........ he said :-[

He should run for president!! 

A lot of folks are put off by the CZ's long double-action trigger pull.  But if the OP bought his P-01 without doing any research or trying any metal-framed CZs out, I have no sympathy for him.

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2019, 03:52:11 PM »
This has to be the longest continuing thread after an OP has been banned.  :o

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2019, 05:25:34 PM »
I think of it more along the lines of a discussion on the merits of the P01.

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2019, 05:57:21 PM »
I think of it more along the lines of a discussion on the merits of the P01.

We’re going to keep going until OP returns, confesses his original agenda was trolling, then agrees with all of us on those merits of the P01 after all.

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2019, 06:41:36 PM »
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He should run for president!! 

A lot of folks are put off by the CZ's long double-action trigger pull.  But if the OP bought his P-01 without doing any research or trying any metal-framed CZs out, I have no sympathy for him.

With a P01 he would never have to deal with a long double action pull. Load pistol with initial round, use the decocker setting the hammer to half cock which also brings the trigger back for a shorter pull, after that initial half cock pull the rest would be short single action pulls.

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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2019, 08:13:14 PM »
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With a P01 he would never have to deal with a long double action pull. Load pistol with initial round, use the decocker setting the hammer to half cock which also brings the trigger back for a shorter pull, after that initial half cock pull the rest would be short single action pulls.

I suspect our troll was basing his comments on what he read on other forums rather than what he experienced.  I'd be surprised if he even owned a CZ P-01.

Most of the complaints I've heard come from folks who had their first CZ experience with a standard (safety-equipped) 75B, and that included some of my shooting buddies.  They wanted to love the CZ, weren't happy with a cocked & locked start, and just couldn't make it happen. (The fact that IDPA and maybe USPSA wouldn't let competitors start from the half-cock notch with safety-equipped guns also reduced the options.)   I suspect that was what our TROLL read about, and was the source for his complaints, not hands-on experiences.

I'll agree that starting from the safety notch (which is physically more like 1/4 cock than 1/2 cock) gives the shooter a shorter and lighter trigger pull than a full "hammer down" start, but it's still a bit longer than a small number of folks  can easily cope with.  Others (myself included) are a bit put off by the DA/SA transition which is present with almost all decocker-equipped guns (SIGs immediately come to mind.)   I much prefer cocked & locked starts.  I've never owned a decocker-equipped CZ (but have shot them); I have owned a bunch of safety-equipped models, and a number of other CZ-pattern guns. 

That said, I do have a Sphinx SDP, which is similar to the CZ decocker models, but a bit smoother out of the box than the CZ, and I came to really love that trigger after installing a lighter hammer spring  thanks to a CGW spring kit for the Sphinx SDP.  That makes me think I could probably get comfortable with a CZ decocker model after a little gunsmithing work.



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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2019, 11:22:49 PM »
A few years ago, I was at the range with my steel frame 75 Compact. One of the range employees wanted to try the compact. She was maybe 5'3" with tiny hands. She loved feel of the 75 Compact and shot quite well.

Having demo-ed CZ for over 3.5 years, I've seen a lot of people with small hands love the compact 75 series pistols.
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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2019, 08:35:47 PM »
Should this guy even be allowed to own a firearm, seems trigger happy to me.
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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2019, 02:44:01 PM »
I have big hands
I like my P-01...…
I like guns
I'm glad I have one


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Re: CZ 75 p01 sucks
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2019, 12:44:06 AM »
Sometimes you come across a thread title that is so daft, all you can do is laugh. This was one of those times.  8)