75b carry condition 1 or 2

[FarmerTan]

I know that this question has been around the block more than a couple of times, but I wanted to add that I recently made the decision to carry in condition 2 (round chambered, hammer down, DA mode) rather than condition 1 (cocked and locked). Although I would prefer carrying in condition 1, the holster I use (Clinger No-Print Wonder), which I really like, does not fully cover the right side safety lever, which could fairly easily allow the safety to be disengaged. In fact, I can easily drop the safety with the gun fully holstered. This is something that I just cannot get over. Any thoughts? Anybody else use a IWB holster that actually covers the right side safety?

[jurek]

My OWB doesn't cover safety lever as well. However I've never had any problem with this. My P-01 have nice pretty hard click on safety.
I'm "1911 guy" and my 1911 holster also doesn't cover safety...
To be honest with CZ I don't see any difference with shot speed and accuracy with condition 1 and condition 2. With practice you will have the same results and feel better with hammer down if you prefer.

[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

Personally I would carry a CZ75 in condition 2 with the hammer down. To me, the standard safety on a CZ75 is not as positive as a good 1911. But if you feel fine with condition 1, then go with that. Just know that you will have to practice sweeping that safety off if in condition 1 or practice that first DA pull if carrying the gun in condition 2.

Here's a topic I started here a while back on CZ75 carry condition.

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=101576

[M1A4ME]

You know, CZ went to the trouble to design, build and sell a model called the CZ75BD. 

Just made for carrying with the hammer down and a DA first shot.

The latest holster I bought for a CZ was one from White Hat Holsters (for the P01 Omega with an Olight PL Mini on it).  I had to slightly modify the holster with a heat gun/screw driver to make a spot for the right side safety.  The kydex was pushing the safety to the fire position.  I made an expanded "notch" at the same angle as the right side safety in the SAFE position and that holds the safety now, in the SAFE position.

I have a couple holsters (kydex) from the Cleveland Kydex Co.  They have an option for what they call a full guard.  It extends the side of the holster up to the back/end of the slide so that not contact between the safety and body/t-shirt occurs.  It will still poke the hammer and beaver tail into your tenders skin if your body rolls out over your belt, or if you don't put a piece of leather there for the hammer/beavertail to rest against.

https://clevelandkydex.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27_1&products_id=656&zenid=7upvquvno42umvn5q3qh6ol0f3

[larryflew]

or remove the right side safety

[FarmerTan]

Thanks for the input, guys. With practice, sweeping the safety off comes naturally, so for now Larry's option (remove right side safety) sounds the most appealing to me.

[DWARREN]

Practice carry with a unloaded weapon (around the house) and see if you have a problem.
Most safeties on CZ's are not that easy to change to fire without intention.

[dbarn]

My personal perspective, but I like not having to worry about sweeping anything off in a high-stress situation.  Exactly why I carry a DA/SA. I would more opt for having a smooth DA pull on the first shot and SA on subsequent shots. If you practice shooting and dryfire firing in DA mode, it will become second nature and DA will become more smooth with use. It's amazing to me how accurate you can fire a DA/SA pistol with the first shot in DA. 

[jurek]

My personal perspective, but I like not having to worry about sweeping anything off in a high-stress situation.  Exactly why I carry a DA/SA. I would more opt for having a smooth DA pull on the first shot and SA on subsequent shots. If you practice shooting and dryfire firing in DA mode, it will become second nature and DA will become more smooth with use. It's amazing to me how accurate you can fire a DA/SA pistol with the first shot in DA.

That's true.
With practice there is no difference with accuracy either you shot DA or SA.

[Metal Wonder Nine Guy]

My personal perspective, but I like not having to worry about sweeping anything off in a high-stress situation.  Exactly why I carry a DA/SA. I would more opt for having a smooth DA pull on the first shot and SA on subsequent shots. If you practice shooting and dryfire firing in DA mode, it will become second nature and DA will become more smooth with use. It's amazing to me how accurate you can fire a DA/SA pistol with the first shot in DA.

If you have to use your DA SA semi auto in self defense, you probably aren't going to be thinking about how heavy the DA pull is. You'll more likely be squeezing that trigger as fast as you can without disturbing the sights.

[FarmerTan]

I have been carrying condition 1 long enough now that it is 100% muscle memory now to draw, sweep and squeeze. I have since modified the holster with heat gun to "lock" it in the "safe" position when holstered. My natural movement now, even with non-manual safety models is to sweep my right thumb across the slide as my front sight acquires the target, and to sweep up as I reholster.

[Gunnerdad80]

I like the way you think FarmerTan. I vote for condition 2 if the holster won’t cover the safety lever completely. If we’re talkin CZ I’d rather pull and shoot than pull/safety off/then shoot.

If I carry a clone, like Tanfo, Canik or Sarsilmaz, it’s condition 2 with safety on.

[M1A4ME]

Consistency is the way to go.

Bounce from one operating system to another and your mind/body will not work together when SHTF.

I usually carry my P07 away from the house/property.  On the property I carry either a P07 9MM or a M&P with ambidextrous safeties.  One is hammer fired, the other striker fired but operate the same way between the holster and firing a around.

The FNS I no longer carry has ambidextrous safeties.  The big XD 5" Tactical has ambidextrous safeties.  The 1911's have ambidextrous safeties.  Multiple calibers, makers, all with safeties.  Even though I don't carry any of the guns mentioned in this paragraph, if I had to grab one they all work the same way.

I used to jump back and forth between the M1 and the AR15.  Stopped that.  I kept dropping the magazine out of the AR15 while looking for the M1/M1A safety with my trigger finger.  Instead I bought a GII so I can still carry a .308 that works just like the AR15s, if I feel the .308 will work better for the job.  No more dropped magazines.

[briang2ad]

I am with you on the B safety being too loose -  a tad disconcerting.  The PreBs are much more secure.  You CAN buy extra powered safety detent springs, but I don't have the link right now.

Dropping the hammer without igniting the primer (the desired endstate) is not as hard as some say.  MANY reviewers tell you that it is somehow inherently dangerous.  I think it can be done much safer than sticking a gun in your pants where you can blow off your nuts and blow out your artery with one mistake in 1000. 

Just ignore ANY instruction to pinch the hammer - this CAN be dangerous.  Instead BLOCK the hammer with your offhand thumb, remove your finger from the trigger, and then roll your thumb off the firing pin channel.  Its simple and safe.  Remember, once your finger is off the trigger, it is impossible for the gun to discharge because of the FPB and half cock.  With the B you are even more safe. 

When I practice with my DA/SAs I do most of my shooting in DA.  It can be VERY accurate - just as much as a SA.  I have no trouble letting the hammer down.  Also - the first rule is that the gun is oriented on the target. 

Block - never pinch. 

[Hamilton99]

I carry my sp01 in condition 1in custom owb kydex holster, my gun is SA only.