P10C suppressor reliability?

[davekoch]

I just purchased a "suppressor ready" CZ P10C and am planning to send it right out and get the slide milled to mount a Holosun 507C.

Should I ask about getting additional weight removed from the slide for reliability with my suppressor? I'll be using my CGS Kraken, which is a pretty light can.

If everything goes according to plan, this will be a carry gun as well as a bedside gun and I want it to primarily be reliable with 124gr HSTs unsuppressed, but hopefully also be reliable with 147gr FMJs suppressed for fun and practice.

I also read about some folks having cycling issues with a suppressed P10C until it was well broken in. I read a comment about one suppressed P10C essentially being a single shot gun until about 250rds were through it unsuppressed.  Is that common?

Thoughts, advice, suggestions?

[aflevine]

I had my milling done at CGW.  Suggest calling them for that discussion.  Great people to work with.  If you go with a BUIS combination that they don’t have in stock (opted for the Ameriglo rear) suggest getting them yourself ahead of sending the barrel for milling.  It will save you 2 weeks or more.

[davekoch]

Thanks for the reply. 

 I actually did contact CGW, and Primary Machine regarding some general questions about their work, but I'm still waiting on a reply to some other questions and not have asked about suppressor reliability mods yet.  At this point, I'm leaning towards Primary Machine due to their slide refinishing options and custom fit of my specific optic.

 I've also been doing some extensive searching here on the forum and found the .360" Ameriglo /.275" Dawson sight recommendations posted by Earlan357. Those sound very good to me so I ordered those and Primary says that they will install them with the other work.

[DOC 1500]

 OP ,  You are asking if you should get the slide weight reduced to make it more reliable ?  think about it , why would they build a gun that is ready for suppressors and make it unreliable when you put a suppressor on it ? As of right now what makes an unreliable?
Your question is kind of like asking, I bought a new pickup truck with a tow package is it okay to put a boat behind it on a trailer.
And yes, most guns do better after a break-in. Of a few hundred rounds.

[davekoch]

OP ,  You are asking if you should get the slide weight reduced to make it more reliable ?  think about it , why would they build a gun that is ready for suppressors and make it unreliable when you put a suppressor on it ?

Not exactly. I'm asking if:

1)  Are there any known reliability problems with the gun as it comes from the factory? As far as I know CZ did not make any changes from the standard gun except add suppressor sights and a threaded barrel. I'm sure they tested it, but I am asking the CZ enthusiasts here if they have any additional data from real world use with a suppressor.

2) When I add the weight of a red dot to the slide, has that additional weight caused any problems with this specific gun?

[greyling22]

the only information I got on the p10 and suppressors what from 2 reviewers, and they both said they had problems with the can on, especially with lighter loads. I bought the p07 instead because of that. I mostly don't have many problems, but I am running a lighter cajun hammer spring, and I do often have failures to lock the slide back at the end. I am seriously considering cutting a couple coils off my spring and seeing of that fixes my issues.

[Daltanian]

I recently just picked up a suppressor ready P10C and the CGS Mod 9, which essentially is just a Kraken with very minor updates.

Shot them both for the first time today and only had one FTF; on the very first shot. After that it worked flawlessly for the other 149 rounds I put through it.

I started off with some Fiocchi 115 gr before moving to Sellier & Bellot 140 gr subsonic. A few times the slide didn't lock back when empty, but overall I think the gun/can were great.

The caveat though, is that I actually swapped to a Primary Machine fluted guide rod and 15 lb recoil spring combo before I started. I heard mixed reviews on the stock set up, so I figured I'd just try it out and and the extra tune-ability gained with a non captive springs was worth it just in case I ran into issues.

I'm not super experienced with suppressed shooting, but I really enjoyed this combo and look forward to my next trip.

Hopefully if nothing else this provides a good additional data point.

[JLla84]

I just purchased a "suppressor ready" CZ P10C and am planning to send it right out and get the slide milled to mount a Holosun 507C.

Should I ask about getting additional weight removed from the slide for reliability with my suppressor? I'll be using my CGS Kraken, which is a pretty light can.

If everything goes according to plan, this will be a carry gun as well as a bedside gun and I want it to primarily be reliable with 124gr HSTs unsuppressed, but hopefully also be reliable with 147gr FMJs suppressed for fun and practice.

I also read about some folks having cycling issues with a suppressed P10C until it was well broken in. I read a comment about one suppressed P10C essentially being a single shot gun until about 250rds were through it unsuppressed.  Is that common?

Thoughts, advice, suggestions?

My stock P10c supp ready didn’t have any issues but I noticed it ejected rather poorly. While I was at Cajun getting an rmr cut, they did a stew guide rod and per David’s recommendation, swapped to the Cajun 15# recoil spring.... 500 rounds later of 115/124/147/new, reman, fmj/hp, the brass ejects consistently several feet out...

As far as lightening the slide??? Why? It’s not a shadow 2.... it’s rather light as it is.

[aasbra]

I’ve had mine out to the range 2-3 times since purchasing it earlier this year.  Fired maybe 250-300 rounds total, 125 and 147 grain reloads, both with and without suppressor.  I recall maybe one round in the first magazine that didn’t cycle, but it runs great so far.

[JLla84]

I just purchased a "suppressor ready" CZ P10C and am planning to send it right out and get the slide milled to mount a Holosun 507C.

Should I ask about getting additional weight removed from the slide for reliability with my suppressor? I'll be using my CGS Kraken, which is a pretty light can.

If everything goes according to plan, this will be a carry gun as well as a bedside gun and I want it to primarily be reliable with 124gr HSTs unsuppressed, but hopefully also be reliable with 147gr FMJs suppressed for fun and practice.

I also read about some folks having cycling issues with a suppressed P10C until it was well broken in. I read a comment about one suppressed P10C essentially being a single shot gun until about 250rds were through it unsuppressed.  Is that common?

Thoughts, advice, suggestions?

My stock P10c supp ready didn’t have any issues but I noticed it ejected rather poorly. While I was at Cajun getting an rmr cut, they did a stew guide rod and per David’s recommendation, swapped to the Cajun 15# recoil spring.... 500 rounds later of 115/124/147/new, reman, fmj/hp, the brass ejects consistently several feet out...

As far as lightening the slide??? Why? It’s not a shadow 2.... it’s rather light as it is.

Actually went out and put another 500 through it again last night... a mix of 200 115gr federal, 100 or so 147 hst, 100 white box, and 100 124 reman... i even hodge podged 10 or so mags to completely randomize the ammo and i did not have one hiccup of any kind... and brass was being flung like crazy, i have to admit, the change in recoil spring recommended by David at Cajun Gun Works was an incredible change... very glad i listened to him...