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Offline BStill

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 09:31:40 PM »
I've always wondered why there aren't more "simulated" DA/SA striker action guns like the P99AS: a striker you can fully decock for a heavier and longer first trigger pull.  A P99AS striker in a micro single-stack 9mm would be almost as good as a TDA hammer fired gun.

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 10:18:52 PM »
I've always wondered why there aren't more "simulated" DA/SA striker action guns like the P99AS: a striker you can fully decock for a heavier and longer first trigger pull.  A P99AS striker in a micro single-stack 9mm would be almost as good as a TDA hammer fired gun.

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Good question. It would be especially beneficial on a pocket-sized gun.
I suspect there may be patent protections that limit copying specific designs.
KAHR uses a modified striker system that is only partially cocked. Their PM9 (or CM9) is the perfect pocket size, but the 6 or 7rnd extended capacity just doesn't measure up to the SIG P365's capacity. 
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2019, 04:30:23 AM »
For a DA/SA striker decocker, Canik has the TP9DA model. It's about the same size as the P10C, not an easy pistol for pocket carry.
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2019, 08:07:27 AM »
For a DA/SA striker decocker, Canik has the TP9DA model. It's about the same size as the P10C, not an easy pistol for pocket carry.
As long as your State allows legal Open Carry, I think you'd be good to go with that TP9DA hang'in out.  O0

There are only a few Sub-compact, and NO micro-9 Traditional DA/SA decockers that I know of.  And I believe only the SIG P365 and the soon to arrive SA Hellcat are micro-sized with 10 or more capacity.

For reference: The KAHR PM9 is 4" tall x 5.3" long x .91 wide (with 6rnd mag) SIG P365 at 4.3"tall, 5.8" long and 1.0" wide, Hellcat will be 4" tall x 6" long x 1" wide.

As BStill suggested, even a 'modified' striker design that gives you a 1st round DA with SA follow-ups would maybe work. The KAHR PM9 design comes close but it's really classified as a DAO, but if it had a modified double stack like the SIG P365 with 10+1 I think it would be a winner!
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2019, 08:36:40 AM »
Yes, the little Sig P290RS would be SO much better if it were DA/SA!

And if CZ managed to make something that small with a hammer in SA/DA - I’d be ALL over it.  But for now, I just keep practicing with the baby Sig.

Yes you're so right, the little SIG 290rs was very close. IMHO perfect size for pocket carry. SIG made the effort to give it a bobbed hammer and re-strike capability. If only they had taken the extra step to go DA/SA so it would go into SA mode after the first DA round!! The DAO trigger with it's very long pull and reset is a challenge to shoot quickly and accurately. I often start a practice session with this baby; so everything else is easy-peasy!
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2019, 11:23:17 AM »
These parts from Galloway Precision made a HUGE difference in the baby Sig. 
Night and day difference.
The trigger pull and reset is approx 50% better than stock.  Still not to a point where anybody would call it “perfect”, but very workable.  There is still no “wall” to feel with the trigger.  You just commit to the pull of the trigger and keep going until you feel the recoil in one single fluid motion.

GP-1116-BLK   Antioch Curved Trigger for Sig Sauer P290RS Pistols   
GP-1103   Performance Spring Set for Sig P290 P290RS Pistols   
GP-TIK   Trigger Install Kit   
GP-1102   22 lb Recoil Spring Set for Sig P290 and P290RS Pistols   
GP-1101   Stainless Steel Guide Rod for Sig P290 P290RS Pistols   

These parts have helped me ring steel with this thing at ridiculous distances, and produce pretty good groups at normal distances.  I carry this weapon whenever a deep concealment is desired.

If CZ ever makes one this small with a hammer - I’ll buy it.  Right now my P-01 and P-07 are in concealed carry rotation.  Both are awesome, and I shoot them well.  A Rami might be slightly smaller, but the length isn’t my problem with concealment.  It’s height with full-size grip that hangs out like a flag.  I will look at P-10S just for grins, but I’m not going to conceal carry a striker fire in appendix position. 

C’mon CZ - fill that gap in your lineup!


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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2019, 12:18:07 PM »
This might sound kind of weird, but I think CZ is missing color options! I wish every existing model had multiple factory color options rather than just plain old black

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2019, 02:19:34 PM »
This might sound kind of weird, but I think CZ is missing color options! I wish every existing model had multiple factory color options rather than just plain old black

Not sure just how well even the OD Green models sold/sell
Even the ones that came with the matching Knives

Since there are a ton of places out there that can "coat" your Pistol to whatever color you can imagine, CZ may not see the added cost is worth it
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2019, 02:52:17 PM »
This might sound kind of weird, but I think CZ is missing color options! I wish every existing model had multiple factory color options rather than just plain old black

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I'm quite secure in my manhood and I'd drive a hot pink 59 Eldorado in a heartbeat but a pink CZ75??? I gotta draw the line at that.

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2019, 03:21:01 PM »
This might sound kind of weird, but I think CZ is missing color options! I wish every existing model had multiple factory color options rather than just plain old black

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I'm quite secure in my manhood and I'd drive a hot pink 59 Eldorado in a heartbeat but a pink CZ75??? I gotta draw the line at that.
You know it's funny you say that, my SP-01 is black but all the lettering and the top of the slide is actually pink

The grips on my SP-01 are also white with pink accents

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2019, 06:42:20 PM »
I'm quite secure in my manhood and I'd drive a hot pink 59 Eldorado in a heartbeat but a pink CZ75??? I gotta draw the line at that.

Usta'be, the joke was; You have to be able to bench press 300lbs+ or know Kung fu to drive for Mary Kay   ;)
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2019, 06:53:14 PM »
You know what a real man shoots?

Whatever the #$&% he wants.  ;)

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2019, 07:18:36 PM »
These parts from Galloway Precision made a HUGE difference in the baby Sig. 
Night and day difference.
The trigger pull and reset is approx 50% better than stock.  Still not to a point where anybody would call it “perfect”, but very workable.  There is still no “wall” to feel with the trigger.  You just commit to the pull of the trigger and keep going until you feel the recoil in one single fluid motion.

GP-1116-BLK   Antioch Curved Trigger for Sig Sauer P290RS Pistols   
GP-1103   Performance Spring Set for Sig P290 P290RS Pistols   
GP-TIK   Trigger Install Kit   
GP-1102   22 lb Recoil Spring Set for Sig P290 and P290RS Pistols   
GP-1101   Stainless Steel Guide Rod for Sig P290 P290RS Pistols   

These parts have helped me ring steel with this thing at ridiculous distances, and produce pretty good groups at normal distances.  I carry this weapon whenever a deep concealment is desired.

If CZ ever makes one this small with a hammer - I’ll buy it.  Right now my P-01 and P-07 are in concealed carry rotation.  Both are awesome, and I shoot them well.  A Rami might be slightly smaller, but the length isn’t my problem with concealment.  It’s height with full-size grip that hangs out like a flag.  I will look at P-10S just for grins, but I’m not going to conceal carry a striker fire in appendix position. 

C’mon CZ - fill that gap in your lineup!
Yeah, I'm with you. Just not comfortable with anything less than a DA trigger near my family jewels.  ::)
Thanks for the suggestions to improve my SIG 290rs. I'm used to a DA J-frame revolver, and the little SIG pocket carries so well, it could just use a little improvement especially in a shorter reset.
BTW, the fast cycle of the 290rs short barrel took it's toll on several Sig-lite nite sights. After the 3rd warranty replacement SIG sent me a set of the much-improved X-Ray 3 sights. (They had the same issue with the P-365 and quickly switched to the more durable X-Ray-3's). The new sights are Wayyyy better! Yeah, my P365 is a great gun but I still feel more comfy with the 'lil 290rs's long DA. Yup, you gotta just pull the trigger smoothly right thru.
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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2019, 07:44:38 PM »
....and my front sight died again also!

I will have to try the X-Rays.
I can’t send it in for another warranty set with all the aftermarket trigger stuff now.

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Re: What CZ is MISSING?
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2019, 08:46:53 PM »
....and my front sight died again also!

I will have to try the X-Rays.
I can’t send it in for another warranty set with all the aftermarket trigger stuff now.
I just sent SIG CS an image of the dead front sight; and after I asked if I could switch to the X-Ray-3 front site they agreed to just send me both front&back set which I mounted myself. Otherwise, they can cost like $150. I've got a few SIG's and they've been very fair to deal with.
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