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Offline angus49

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EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« on: October 10, 2019, 01:39:52 PM »
Okay - new to CZ. Love my 75D Compact PCR, hate the sights. Just turned 70 and it's going to replace my HK P30sk green laser for EDC once I get the sights figured out. Obviously I can't use the green laser with the PCR so I need some help here with sights I can acquire quickly with older eyes and that work best for personal protection distance first and paper targets secondarily. Big dots are a possibility as I'm considering a two dot system using CZ Works or whoever parts. The problem is the range of sight combinations is staggering and I've never sued anything but three dot systems. I am also considering a blacked out rear and bright front sight and would like to hear from anyone using such a setup. Help an old guy, please?

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2019, 01:53:08 PM »
Okay - new to CZ. Love my 75D Compact PCR, hate the sights. Just turned 70 and it's going to replace my HK P30sk green laser for EDC once I get the sights figured out. Obviously I can't use the green laser with the PCR so I need some help here with sights I can acquire quickly with older eyes and that work best for personal protection distance first and paper targets secondarily. Big dots are a possibility as I'm considering a two dot system using CZ Works or whoever parts. The problem is the range of sight combinations is staggering and I've never sued anything but three dot systems. I am also considering a blacked out rear and bright front sight and would like to hear from anyone using such a setup. Help an old guy, please?
I too qualify for geezer class [emoji16]. About a month ago I put Truglo TFX Pro's on my P-01 and I am VERY happy with the result. As an aside I had been using the stock sites since I purchased the gun in 2003.

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Re: EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2019, 02:15:06 PM »
My EDC is a P01 Omega. Being 63, and being farsighted I struggle with sight picture too. I use the Truglo TFX Pro sights and really like them. 

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 04:24:36 PM »
Have a 75 Compact that I bought new in 05. I also looked and looked at all the aftermarket possibilities,in the end I blacked out the rear sights white dots and patiently built up the front dot with hi viz yellow/green paint. Ten buck solution and works like a charm.
Yep, I am cheap.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 08:15:49 PM »
tneimeyer & Double Tap, did you replace sights by yourselves or used a particular gunsmith? I'm asking because I'm going to do the same with my P-01 Omega, and found a lot of info that rear sights are extremely hard to replace.
Thx for info.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 08:24:52 PM »
tneimeyer & Double Tap, did you replace sights by yourselves or used a particular gunsmith? I'm asking because I'm going to do the same with my P-01 Omega, and found a lot of info that rear sights are extremely hard to replace.
Thx for info.
I used a smith at the range. I watched him do it and he had a little bit of difficulty with the rear.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2019, 09:19:31 AM »
tneimeyer & Double Tap, did you replace sights by yourselves or used a particular gunsmith? I'm asking because I'm going to do the same with my P-01 Omega, and found a lot of info that rear sights are extremely hard to replace.
Thx for info.

I did it myself, I tinker with quite a few of my firearms and had purchased a good sight pusher several years go.  I don't remember it being too difficult but again I used the pusher.  Before I had the sight pusher I had a gunsmith change the sights on my guns.

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 09:44:59 AM »
I've always struggled with 3-dot style sights. The blacked out rear and FO front works best for me and you'll find no better than Dawson Precision. 

I'm nearsighted and with 3-dot sights, front sight focus, and both eyes open I see 6 dots making the sight picture very busy and it slows me down. The single dot of the FO simplifies things quite a bit.

I tried night sights, but don't see the point. FO is more visible in more varied lighting situations. Night sights are really only advantageous in very limited situations like twilight, so when people say they're required for self-defense weapons I'm always left scratching my head. The hybrid style like TFX look interesting, but I'd probably want to black out the rear FO somehow. Tru Glo doesn't offer just a front sight alone as far as I know.

I've also tried the XS Big Dots and as much as I WANTED to like them I just didn't. The white golf ball doesn't draw my eye like a crisp FO does. And while NOT as inaccurate as some may have you believe, the black rear/FO front combo is still faster and more accurate for me at all distances.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 10:43:46 AM »
I've always struggled with 3-dot style sights. The blacked out rear and FO front works best for me and you'll find no better than Dawson Precision. 

I'm nearsighted and with 3-dot sights, front sight focus, and both eyes open I see 6 dots making the sight picture very busy and it slows me down. The single dot of the FO simplifies things quite a bit.

I tried night sights, but don't see the point. FO is more visible in more varied lighting situations. Night sights are really only advantageous in very limited situations like twilight, so when people say they're required for self-defense weapons I'm always left scratching my head. The hybrid style like TFX look interesting, but I'd probably want to black out the rear FO somehow. Tru Glo doesn't offer just a front sight alone as far as I know.

I've also tried the XS Big Dots and as much as I WANTED to like them I just didn't. The white golf ball doesn't draw my eye like a crisp FO does. And while NOT as inaccurate as some may have you believe, the black rear/FO front combo is still faster and more accurate for me at all distances.

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It appears CZ Custom has the TFX front, but their compatible rear is out of stock. This seems like a decent setup in theory.

One thing that bugs me with CZ aftermarket is rear sights are predominantly those long sloping types with the race gun aesthetic. "Tactical" sights should have a pronounced ledge for one handed manipulation, IMO.

https://czcustom.com/czc-truglo-tfx-front-sight.html

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Re: EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2019, 11:42:17 PM »
Okay - new to CZ. Love my 75D Compact PCR, hate the sights. Just turned 70 and it's going to replace my HK P30sk green laser for EDC once I get the sights figured out. Obviously I can't use the green laser with the PCR so I need some help here with sights I can acquire quickly with older eyes and that work best for personal protection distance first and paper targets secondarily. Big dots are a possibility as I'm considering a two dot system using CZ Works or whoever parts. The problem is the range of sight combinations is staggering and I've never sued anything but three dot systems. I am also considering a blacked out rear and bright front sight and would like to hear from anyone using such a setup. Help an old guy, please?
I too qualify for geezer class [emoji16]. About a month ago I put Truglo TFX Pro's on my P-01 and I am VERY happy with the result. As an aside I had been using the stock sites since I purchased the gun in 2003.

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I went with the same TFX using the orange front ring option vs green. The fiber optic is fantastic for me. I have Dawson Precision sights on a Walther PPX and they are an excellent choice.

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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2019, 10:41:02 AM »
Yup, I'm pushing that number 70 too.
I'd agree that the TFX sights are a good solution for both day/night and had 'em on my P-01.

However, realizing my eyesight will continue to get worse, several years ago I started outfitting several of my handguns with Red Dots, beginning with an optic-ready Glock 17 M.O.S. that came with mounting plates for all the popular Optics. After several months of 'learning curve' I realized the Red Dot was simply faster and more accurate in all light conditions; and with both eyes open focusing on the target I had greater situational awareness. And short-barreled pistols IMHO benefit most as they have the same accuracy as a much longer sight-radius pistol. I'm ALL-IN now on Red-Dots, even my little RAMI BD has one. My only guns not red dot (yet  ;D ) are my pocket pistols. For my 'ol eyes, the Red Dots have kept me in the game. There's more than one way to skin a cat.......Just Say-in


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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2019, 08:19:47 PM »
This!  I'm only 56 but my eyes are bad enough that using iron sights with my progressive lenses is an exercise in frustration, especially since I'm cross eyed dominant.  Shooting without my glasses allows me to see the front post better but the target is not nearly distinct enough. I've tried a host of high visibility iron sights but while they helped a bit I was still more frustrated than not.  Desperate, I recently had my beloved 5in PPQ M1 milled for an RDS and it changed my world.  No more frustration and it's pretty easy to get used to.  It's been enough of a game changer that I'm installing RDS on all my favorite guns, from handguns to ARs, EDCs to range toys.  Right now I've got an SP-01 waiting for an SRO at CGW, a P10C in line for a Holosun at Primary Machine and once the SP-01 is back home, my PCR will be getting a CGW defensive carry treatment plus Shield RMS.  I recently asked the CGW folks for their recommendation for an RDS for the PCR and Dave replied: "The Shield RMS is pretty bitchin' for the compact CZ's.  Fits and works great on a compact CZ."

Can you tell I'm enthusiastic about RDS? :-)

Good luck!

Yup, I'm pushing that number 70 too.
I'd agree that the TFX sights are a good solution for both day/night and had 'em on my P-01.

However, realizing my eyesight will continue to get worse, several years ago I started outfitting several of my handguns with Red Dots, beginning with an optic-ready Glock 17 M.O.S. that came with mounting plates for all the popular Optics. After several months of 'learning curve' I realized the Red Dot was simply faster and more accurate in all light conditions; and with both eyes open focusing on the target I had greater situational awareness. And short-barreled pistols IMHO benefit most as they have the same accuracy as a much longer sight-radius pistol. I'm ALL-IN now on Red-Dots, even my little RAMI BD has one. My only guns not red dot (yet  ;D ) are my pocket pistols. For my 'ol eyes, the Red Dots have kept me in the game. There's more than one way to skin a cat.......Just Say-in



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Re: EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2019, 08:22:02 AM »
When I wear the right glasses down to the pistol range I can see the sights pretty well but the target is fuzzier with the glasses vs. no glasses.  With no glasses the target is pretty clear and the front sight is invisible to me.

I'm not 100% confident I will always have my glasses on so I can see the front sight when I need to.  Glasses fall off, get knocked off, get broken, etc.

I have an RMR on my EDC P07.  With my glasses (reading or driving) the dot is pretty clear.  Without my glasses the dot is fuzzy.  I know, from shooting it that way, that I can put a fuzzy dot on a clear target.  When I can't see the front sight at all, I can see that fuzzy dot.

I will, once I settle on a pistol to carry around the yard, garage, back lot while doing outside stuff, working on cars, etc. have a red dot installed on the pistol that wins the reliability/accuracy testing.  The M&P has fallen by the wayside due to poor accuracy.  The CZ75B .40 could be it, but man, it's so pretty I hate to gouge/scratch it up crawling around in the dirt/gravel, etc.  The XD45 is still in the running, too.  The FNS Long Slide groups look good, but the trigger could be an issue (may be too different from a standard hammer or striker fired pistol) due to moving back and forth from the P07 to it.

I probably should have just bought another P07.

Once again, in case anyone lost my opinion/experience in this long reply - get a good red dot installed on your EDC pistol.

Here's mine.  Works like a champ.  Primary Machine did the milling, cerakoting, front/rear sight installation and screwed the DI RMR to the slide for me.



When I'm testing the newer/non CZ pistols and getting PO's at the results (and wondering if it's me having a bad day) I pull the P07 out of the IWB holster and shoot a group with it.  It usually makes me feel better (it's not me, it's the new pistol/ammo).

This is not the best group the P07 will shoot for me, but it's a good example.

I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2019, 09:05:49 AM »
M1A4ME:
That's some very impressive shooting. ^
Maybe it's You, Maybe it's the P-07, Maybe it's the Red Dot; but the combination seems to be a formula that just flat-out works for you. I think you already know the answer to what would be the best EDC for yard and garage work. Two of a good thing is not too many.   ;)
« Last Edit: October 16, 2019, 09:12:05 AM by Vinny »
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Re: EDC SIGHT CHANGE FOR OLD GUY
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2019, 09:34:08 AM »
Vinny, the P07 shoots good without the RMR, too.  But the RMR widens my options for loss of glasses or low light environments.

Pre RMR group.  No explanation for the bottom center hole not in the group.  The bottom left hole was me trying to shoot a big old bumble that was hovering in front of the target.  I missed it, but it sure left in a hurry.  12 yds., off hand, those 135 grain Noslers sitting on top of a compressed charge of Blue Dot.

I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?