P07 Advanced Carry Gun Project

[davekoch]

I never had much interest in CZ's polymer guns until about three weeks ago when I bought a P10C to customize as a Red Dot and light equipped CCW.  I was very impressed with that handgun.

This week I purchased a Suppressor Ready P07 (2019 production) to compliment the P10C. I picked this one up for $447 inc tax & shipping plus $10 transfer fee. Came with two 17rd P10C mags.

The intent for this gun is to use as a CCW AIWB. I feel more comfortable with a hammer fired gun in this position since I can put my thumb on the hammer while holstering. I'll leave the decocker on the gun and not use the optional safety levers.

My plan is to customize this gun as an fully modern advanced carry gun, basically a hammer fired clone of my modified P10C.

Regarding the modernization and customization:

• I'll be adding a Streamlight TLR1 HL  800 lumen weaponlight. This light will live on the gun 24/7 for carry use and bedside use.
• I'm sending the slide to Primary Machine for an optics cut and a Glock rear sight mounted in front of the optic. (Ameriglo .360 rear, Dawson .275 front, both plain black)
• The optic I'm adding is a Holosun 507C red dot. I really like the Eotech style reticle. The battery life is reputed to be excellent. Durability is reported to be good for this class of optic, on par or maybe better than the Deltapoint though not as durable as the RMR. Probably better than everything else.  Time will tell.
• I'll be adding a Cajun Gunworks stainless steel guide rod and 15# recoil spring, CGW Short Reset Kit, and CGW Self Defense Spring Kit.

If you guys can think of any other reliability mods, please let me know. 

 Interestingly, this gun did not include a test target. This is the first CZ I've purchased that didn't have one. I've seen others post that their guns didn't either. Perhaps CZ has discontinued including test targets? 

[jurek]

I'm a little sceptical about changing action in CCW.
I've talked with few self-defense attorneys and all of them have said that every prosecutor is going to show the jury that you turned the gun the into killing machine 

[M1A4ME]

P07 Duty.  .40 S&W.

RMR cut, rear sight cut, RMR, rear and front sights installed and cerakoted by Primary Machine.

Trigger return spring and firing pin block springs replaced with the CGW reduced power versions which are said to be more reliable than the factory springs.

Sticky grip panels glued to the frame to improve grip when sweaty/wet (experienced issues about 3 years ago or so when the pistol was moving around in my hand during firing.

Recoil spring replaced with a captured recoil spring system (factory) when I got tired of fighting with the original uncaptured style set up when field stripping the pistol to clean it.

Twelve round magazines carried in it to improve "concealed" appearance.

Back up magazine is a 17 round P09 magazine to reduce need to carry multiple back up magazines (again, improving conceal carry appearance.)

I carry a light in my pocket rather than put it on the pistol.  I do have pistol lights on some pistols, but not the P07.

I run safeties instead of decockers as that's what I'm used to operating.

I keep my thumb on the left side safety to insure it stays on safe while holstering.



Yeah, sitting on top of the 4" barreled FNS as I was comparing them for size (FNS not even close in the accuracy department though.)  But I don't have any pictures of it with those stick on grip panels.

[davekoch]

That's really nice M1A4ME!  I might steal your color scheme.     Are those Moss Talon Grips?

 I also bought some standard capacity (15rd for 9mm)  mags for concealed carry.

 What is your carry mode?

[ah3]

Of the CGW items you mentioned I would avoid the SS guide rod and recoil spring change.  If you Google around a bit you'll find a number of threads where people have reported that change actually increases the weight compared to the factory captured guide rod the P07 now comes with.  Purportedly, the CGW items were released when the P07 was highly oversprung using the blue recoil spring while the newer captured one that CZ now uses may be 13#.

I had bought those parts myself but later came across the various threads so never put them in my P07.

[M1A4ME]

They are talon grips.  I think the color was FDE, but it matches the cerakote on the slide really well.

[davekoch]

Of the CGW items you mentioned I would avoid the SS guide rod and recoil spring change.  If you Google around a bit you'll find a number of threads where people have reported that change actually increases the weight compared to the factory captured guide rod the P07 now comes with.  Purportedly, the CGW items were released when the P07 was highly oversprung using the blue recoil spring while the newer captured one that CZ now uses may be 13#.

I had bought those parts myself but later came across the various threads so never put them in my P07.

That's interesting. I'll look into that. I mainly wanted the steel guide rod and just got the lightest spring CGW has. Primary Machine has a 13#, but they will only sell it with their guide rod. Maybe it's incompatible with CGW's.

 With only a 2# difference between 15# and 13#, I'll risk it. A lot of my practice is going to be suppressed anyway.

[davekoch]

They are talon grips.  I think the color was FDE, but it matches the cerakote on the slide really well.

I wonder if that was a limited run. I only see Moss(whatever color that is) and Black for the P07 on their site.

[Earl Keese]

Of the CGW items you mentioned I would avoid the SS guide rod and recoil spring change.  If you Google around a bit you'll find a number of threads where people have reported that change actually increases the weight compared to the factory captured guide rod the P07 now comes with.  Purportedly, the CGW items were released when the P07 was highly oversprung using the blue recoil spring while the newer captured one that CZ now uses may be 13#.

I had bought those parts myself but later came across the various threads so never put them in my P07.

That's interesting. I'll look into that. I mainly wanted the steel guide rod and just got the lightest spring CGW has. Primary Machine has a 13#, but they will only sell it with their guide rod. Maybe it's incompatible with CGW's.

 With only a 2# difference between 15# and 13#, I'll risk it. A lot of my practice is going to be suppressed anyway.

It works fine in my P10C & P07.

[M1A4ME]

Dave, could be Moss.  It's been two or three years.  No problems with them working loose and my pistol has enough oil on it for any two pistols most people own.  It gets carried almost every day, too.  Just got back from picking up my wife's I pad (new battery installation) and buying a couple tail light bulbs for the Expedition.

Sorry.  Forgot an earlier question.  It's carried in an IWB holster.  LAG holster.  All kydex where the pistol makes contact.  Has a piece of leather screwed to the side that rubs my chubby side, to keep that hammer and frame from gouging my tender skin.

[Claymore504]

I would not change the recoil set up. I have been happy with my P07 and both P09 handguns with CGW TRS, CGW FPRP, CGW yellow hammer spring, CGW extended firing pin and polishing a few parts.

[M1A4ME]

You thinking about a compensator?

The barrel is threaded.  It's a P07, not a P09, so another inch or inch and a quarter wouldn't be that much more metal in front of the slide.

I don't have one but a lot of people say the compensators (as long as you have a good one) works pretty well with hot 9MM ammo (the light fast hollow points).  They say it helps them stay on target for rapid follow up shots.

If you're getting the slide milled/cerakoted it might be a good idea to have the compensator cerakoted at the same time to insure a good color match.

[Yathump]

You already have a advanced carry gun just buy purchasing a P07
I’ve left mine stock with the exception of sights which my 2nd P07 came with XS big dot night sights
Those are the moss colored talon grips I have then on my shockwave and need to get some for my CZs

Good look with your project
Keep us posted with what you go with

[DOC 1500]

I'm a little sceptical about changing action in CCW.
I've talked with few self-defense attorneys and all of them have said that every prosecutor is going to show the jury that you turned the gun the into killing machine 

and if your attorney is any good he will show that what you've put together as a highly accurate self-defense weapon .
As long as at the time of the shooting you're not walking around with one of those I have a right to carry an AR-15 in public,  t-shirts.

[DOC 1500]

To the OP , good luck aiwb with that giant flashlight on it. Your junk is not going to appreciate it.( that's a big holster to stuff down the front of your pants.
You also mentioned that most of your practice will be suppressed, I don't think you're going to a i w b with a suppressor. OUCH !! 😬
You said this was your CCW pistol , so practice self-defense drills not target shooting with a suppressor,
Unless you plan on also getting into Target competition with the suppressor.😳 ( well, I guess you could be practicing for when you put the suppressor on at home when you put it on your nightstand.)
If you bought the pistol with a suppressor length barrel because it's a longer Barrel, you should have just bought a po9.
To be totally honest, I, being an older person a little more mature than I use to be and a little more experience than I used to have, I can't help but to think this is all about being Tacticool. ( only you and your own mind can answer that question) . And yes I've been there done that many many years ago.
If it isn't , I apologize for my assumption and wish you good luck in  whatever your trying to accomplish.