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Offline M1A4ME

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Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« on: December 05, 2019, 07:32:05 PM »
Just ordered a 20" lightweight/pencil profile barrel (5.56X45 chamber and nitride coating in/out).  0.625" low profile gas block, nitride coated/finished rifle length gas tube and roll pin.

Already had the uppers and upper parts kits in the shed.

Same for the lowers and lower parts kit.

This one will get an M16A1 butt stock (fixed old short stock for all you guys addicted to the latest/greatest carbine stocks).  I got three of them in a pretty good deal a few years back and I have that one left.

Oh, just realized the carbine buffer tubes/springs/buffers I have won't work.  I'll have to order the rifle parts for this one.

Once I get the barrel/gas block and get some measurements I'll be looking at free float tubes to see what looks like it will work for me (I like those Luth AR triangular looking tubes and have two of them, but I'll look at others, too.

Then the Magpul back up sights, a scope and scope mount.

Ordered a small bucket load of 10 round magazines, too.  If they don't become necessary next year then I'll hand them out to the boys for bench magazines as the 30 round versions are a little tricky when shooting off a bench.

Pictures once I get it started and again in it's finished/experimental form.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2019, 07:57:30 PM »
Rifle length AR's are a pleasure to shoot. I'm working on a nice 18" gun for my brother, or more accurately I have the parts sitting in a pile on the bench. 8)

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2019, 08:49:42 PM »
Having come into shooting during the clinton ban era; it took me essentially until this year to really start building and enjoying full length fixed stock rifles.  The collapsible stock feature had been the forbidden fruit for so long that I just wanted as many of them as I could get...

The full length rifles are very pleasurable to shoot; nice soft recoil impulse, and they can be a handy, nice handling rifle.

Funny how having something withheld seems to endow it with magical properties...lol.
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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2019, 06:18:51 AM »
I have a couple of 18's.  I seem to shoot them more than the rest.

I have a 20" and haven't shot it in a long time, not for any reason other than lack of enough range time.  The pistols have really taken up the range time the last few years.  I usually have an AR with me, but by the time my body tells me I should pick up and go home I'm not really done with the pistols, let alone the rifle.

This one will be different.  Different parts, different intent, different look.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 08:39:11 AM »
Of the three AR's I own (all are Colt), my favorite by far is the Sporter HBAR "A2" version (full length stock and built in carry handle).

Looking forward to reading about your build.



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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2019, 10:57:42 AM »
It's amazing how these things multiply. Put one in your safe and the next time you open the door there are 2 more. 8)
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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2019, 12:59:34 PM »
Well, fixed stock buffer tube/spring/buffer (or rifle style/type if you like) ordered.  As well as a set of magpul back up sights and a Luth-AR free float tube (I can't help it, I was skeptical at first of those three sided free float tubes but this makes my third one now, they just feel good in the palm of that support hand).

I have a few scope mounts.  Thinking of a Nikon 3X carbine scope for it.  I never could trade my youngest son out of the one I loaded him years ago.

First bunch of parts in towards the middle/end of next week. Pictures after that.

Oh, the barrel is stainless steel.  I think I said (in the OP) that is was nitride.  Oops.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2019, 04:33:37 PM »
You could've used a 2 1/4" stack of quarters in the rifle buffer tube and used the carbine buffer and spring...but then you would have less parts for your next "last" AR build.

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2019, 05:36:35 PM »
I have several spare springs (carbine and rifle) but the only carbine buffers I have are for builds scheduled for the kids (great nephew/niece and an almost adopted grandson).

I actually like the shorter fixed A1 stocks.  I've already built a couple 18" versions with fixed stocks and I put one on my GII .308 (had to make a buffer for that one, not too hard).  The A2 stocks are a bit uncomfortable for me.

Got some spare bumpers for the buffers, but no spare buffers, unless I find that GII buffer I took out of the carbine stock from the GII (can't find the stock either - somewhere in a pile of stuff in the garage.)

I'm curious how it'll turn out, looks and performance.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2019, 08:17:05 PM »
lol. My buddy works for JL Billet, he have me two of their matched light weight sets asa wedding gift. I thought i was done with Ars and was working on my aks. Nooooo now i have to build a ultra light for the wife, and rebuilt my 14.5 onto that set. Now i have an upper and lower just sitting there...staring at me... taunting me.... build a mk12 they whisper ever so gently and sweetly into my ear. your wife wont care.... but they lie

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 12:09:35 PM »
Well, got the barrel the other day, along with the rifle length gas tube, gas block and gas tube pin.  I need to take pictures of the barrel as it will look different when it gets installed.

Got the back up sights and the buffer tube, spring and buffer but the float tube and barrel nut are on back order.  How can you advertise something being on sale and then when someone orders it you tell them you don't have any in stock and have to wait on more to be delivered??

May got to a gun show today (wasn't going to go, but one of two of the adult kids are showing interest so I'll go if they do) and see what I might be able to pick up.  I've got the rest of it (except for a scope).
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2019, 04:08:15 AM »
I accidentally got into ARs just over a year ago...and now I have three. They are just like CZs - addictive.  8)

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 09:52:19 AM »
Here's your next build.
Click the link and scroll down to mall ninja AR.
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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2019, 05:13:16 PM »
I'm actually looking at some of those odd looking "not" pistol grips.  just in case VA "goes north".
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Well, another "last AR15 build" has started
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 07:20:43 PM »
Got home from a gun show and it was so nice I thought I'd start on building the lower. 

Went to the garage.  Found my lowers.  Found my lower parts kits.  Found the MOE carbine stock kits I won't be using for this build.

I could not find the old M16A1 stock I've got over there somewhere and couldn't find the bolts either.  Went round and round looking in drawers and boxes.  Found the Jeep Cherokee factory repair/trouble shooting books I promised the lady that bought our Jeep.  Found a case of small rifle primers (I'd been thinking about buying more).  Found some .45 acp bullets (box of 500 coated Missouri Bullet Co. bullets).  Just didn't find what I was really looking for.

I'm going to have to go out there again tomorrow and look some more.  Those old A1 stocks are getting hard to come buy unless you want to pay too much for them or buy one that's pretty ragged.  I'm on the verge of grabbing an A2 stock and seeing if I can use the hobby belt sander, the Dremel and some elbow grease and shorten it up at the front to the same length as the A1's.  But that's a whole other project.

Same old story.  So much stuff I can find it when I need it.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?