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Offline Lord_Balkan

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Striker Fire for CC
« on: January 11, 2020, 10:29:04 AM »
I have been looking at smaller guns I can conceal easily, but I honestly am a bit scared to carry striker fired guns. I like the DA/SA especially when re-holstering- I can hold on to the hammer to ensure there is no accidental discharge. Is this fear justified? I was looking at the CZ Rami for CC but people seem to complain about the weight. The P365 looks great and actually fits great in my hands, but the striker fire mechanism has me a bit worried. I am a new / beginner shooter. What do you-all think?

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2020, 10:52:32 AM »
I've also been on the hunt for small hammer DA/SA ccw gun. Depending on how small you need, slim pickings depending on caliber and size.

Smallest:  if you're willing to drop below 9mm, there are (old-school) pocket pistols in the smaller calibers (25acp/32acp).  Beretta Tomcat (3032) is in that category.

9mm in a slim single-stack: original Ruger LC9, but reviews aren't very positive.  Springfield XDE, but it's taller in grip height than all the strikers. 

9mm double-stack that compare well to the Rami:  I like the H&K (P2000sk/P30sk) but they are too expensive for me.  A neat compromise design is the Walther P99cAS: although its a striker, it has a decocker that lets you put it in a DA/SA mode.  Good ergo and nice smooth trigger in DA.  Hard to find as may no longer be in production.

lastly, the Kahr (CM9 or CW9) seems to be a good compromise for a small 9mm single-stack.  Striker design, but trigger feels more like a light/smooth DAO revolver.  No manual safety, and the trigger shoe doesn't have that annoying blade safety.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 10:53:12 AM »
I'm not sure others can "answer" this for you. It will all come down to how comfortable you are with any given platform - striker-fired - SA/DA - SA only and so on. I would not dismiss your concerns, but feel they can be mitigated. I am personally comfortable with striker fired pistols as a CCW and have a P365, that with a good holster, I consider safe for carry. But that's me not you. A lot of it has to do with familiarity, training/practice and the correct equipment. I don't have one, but believe the Rami would be a fine CCW too. Best wishes on selecting what will be right for you.
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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2020, 11:36:16 AM »
Hundreds of thousands if not millions CC striker fired pistols. It's a matter of mindset and practice. No fear is necessary, just respect for what you carry.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2020, 12:12:17 PM »
I have been looking at smaller guns I can conceal easily, but I honestly am a bit scared to carry striker fired guns.

Don't be scary. I started with striker PPQ and was scared too. I went through few forums, reading about this, and ended up with P-01 (which is hammer). And after few months I'm thinking about going back to striker. (for CCW purposes only... I'm not giving up my CZ, it's a great shooter)
So everything is about "mindset and practice" (thanks Double Tap for this great phrase! )

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2020, 12:50:07 PM »
Always check your holster and make sure it is clear of any obstructions before re-holstering - this is essential no matter what type of pistol platform you are carrying. If your holster is fully clear and you are re-inserting the pistol carefully, there will be nothing to cause the pistol to fire. And use a rigid, hard shell holster - not something that can collapse.

Alternately, you can insert the pistol in the holster first before you put it on, and then mount the holster on your belt.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2020, 12:56:21 PM »
I was going to recommend carrying with an empty chamber (Israeli carry)until you get comfortable with having a gun with you all the time, but it sounds like you already are. Personally I'm scared of "riding the hammer" down on a live round and use a decocker. Carry with a striker bothered me also. After spending some time practice drawing and general carry I'm good. Having a good retention holster that covers the entire trigger is another part of the safety package.
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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2020, 08:02:13 PM »
I currently carry a G43 and hope to transition to a P365. That said, I have & will continue to carry revolvers. Am most comfortable safety wise with revolvers, but often must carry a small semi auto due to dress where the revolver is not as slim.

What I’m getting at is, while I am more comfortable with the revolver, I also recognize the shortcomings revolvers have when compared to current carry pistols. Of those, striker fire guns when combined with proper holsters, belts and cover garments work just fine and present no safety issues.

Ultimately it comes down to your familiarity, level of training and comfort when choosing your carry gun.

You voice a valid concern.  What’s helped me was shooting my carry gun in IDPA matches. As such I have no aversion to carrying a striker gun with a round in the chamber.
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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2020, 04:21:14 PM »
Hundreds of thousands if not millions CC striker fired pistols. It's a matter of mindset and practice. No fear is necessary, just respect for what you carry.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2020, 05:21:59 PM »
Doesn't bother me, just train with it and you will become more comfortable.
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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2020, 08:34:05 PM »
The M&P Shield has served me well for many years and I stick with it. Langdon tactical is doing good stuff with the Springfield XDE these days. You may want to check it out for DA/SA. Maybe the HK P30SK as well.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2020, 06:47:09 AM »
I'm a fan of reliability and accuracy.  I can get used to carrying something that feels different or is "heavy" is it's reliable and accurate in my hands.

My carry is a P07.  I have carried P01s.  I mean concealed carry.

Striker fired pistols?  Still looking for one that shoots like the P07 and P01.

Are they okay shooting the groups they shoot?  I'm still struggling with that.

I will say that the M&P Performance Center Shield 9MM I bought for her a few months back is the most accurate striker fired gun I've ever shot.  I shoot smaller groups with it (and hot 115 grain hollow points) than with the full sized M&Ps, the XDMs, the Browning, the Beretta, the Glock and maybe some others I've left out.  Yeah, it shoots better groups than some hammer fired pistols.

People on the M&P Forum tell me the Shields have a different barrel lock up design that the full sized pistols.  Maybe that's why it shoots better.

You can buy M&P Compact striker fired pistols with thumb safeties.  Takes some aftermarket parts to make them shoot better.  To be fair, every now and then you can buy a CZ that won't shoot as good as many of them do.

S&W is making a couple pistols now that look like striker fired pistols (no visible hammer) but have internal hammers.  The .380 EZ and the new 9MM EZ.  The .380 EZ I bought has been reliable, but not accurate.  Those have a grip safety on the back of the frame.  And you can get a version of it with thumb safeties, too.

If the aim is concealed carry, add holster availability, magazine cost, and possible replacement sight availability to your research.
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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2020, 07:24:08 AM »
I love my Sig P320 Compact, I find it to be the most accurate handgun I have shot.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2020, 10:57:10 AM »
I own two P320s - X-Compact and X-Five. They are every bit as accurate as my P226 ASE, P229 Legion or my SP-01 Tac. There is no lack of inherent accuracy built into these pistols.

It's entirely possible to have excellent reliability and accuracy, and not be lugging a brick around all day.

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Re: Striker Fire for CC
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2020, 11:43:56 AM »
I'm like you, I highly prefer a hammer gun with the addition of a decocker for added safety. That's why my first CZ was a P01.

But striker-fired guns have an un-deniable better trigger pull on first shot, giving them a higher percentage of good hits right off. Additionally, SF guns are typically plastic and therefore much more comfortable to carry. So when I carry my new P10c hiking, it's for protection from animal attack. I can conceive slightly more reaction time with rabid animals and simply decided to carry on an empty chamber.

This may not be your situation, but it's a half-way position I've adopted to help me deal with the total picture.

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