Any other "BAD" brass cases to avoid (any caliber) besides stepped 9mm

[Tok36]

It looks like Wobbly payed a human hand model to assist him with this picture so that he could avoid showing us his robot hands. Wobbly, on behalf of the Original CZ Forums we except that you are a reloading robot. There is no sense in trying to hide it. 

[CzechnoWizard]

To the list, my adds:

9mm Winchester LE or "NATO, loads. Great brass but they seem to have crimped primers. They can be deprimed but then require chamfering and reaming the primer pocket before a new primer will go in. It's just too much work when perfectly good 9mm brass is going unwanted every day on ranges throughout this land.

Federal .45acp.  Loaded with small primers, these are the devil when they intermix with your regular large primer .45 brass.

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[Dan_69GTX]

I have yet to run across brass plated steel cases in anything besides 9mm.  Has anyone else found something besides 9mm brass plated steel cases?

[eastman]

I have yet to run across brass plated steel cases in anything besides 9mm.  Has anyone else found something besides 9mm brass plated steel cases?

Barnaul has a line of brass plated steel case ammunition (Golden Bear).

[Wobbly]

Wobbly, on behalf of the Original CZ Forums we except that you are a reloading robot.

My reloading robot, caught in the act....



 

[daved20319]

Federal isn't the only ones loading SPP in .45 ACP, Blazer Brass and Speer Lawman both use small primers.  Not an issue for me, I load with a single stage press, and prime with a hand tool, just means an extra step when sorting.

Thanks for the heads up on the brass plated steel, guys, guess it's a good thing I haven't loaded much 9mm, but I'll definitely be running a magnet through all my 9mm brass  .  Later. 

[spt_1955]

I think you will need to draw your own conclusions based on what your reloading experience is.  My press and dies do well with Winchester, Federal, Blazer, and Speer, Hornady, and S&B.   I have uniformly bad experiences sizing Aquila and Remington. 

[Dan_69GTX]

I think you will need to draw your own conclusions based on what your reloading experience is.  My press and dies do well with Winchester, Federal, Blazer, and Speer, Hornady, and S&B.   I have uniformly bad experiences sizing Aquila and Remington.

Hmmmm I think you misunderstood my question.  So I'll expound a bit - "BAD" meaning dangerous to use:
    - (stepped cases tend to split),
    - brass coated steel - same as loading steel cases - not good.
    - "Glocked" 40 - might not fully seat in chamber.
    -

Yea, there are cases that don't work for certain loads such as can't seat a 147 9mm deep enough due to case wall thickness, but that doesn't make them unusable for other loads.

I'm looking for reasons to NEVER use a case due to it being dangerous - the most obvious example is the stepped case.

I've got very little experience outside of 9mm which is why I asked.

[jwc007]

  I have uniformly bad experiences sizing Aquila and Remington.

Another vote here  for Aquila being bad news, the bases simply won't resize.  Perfecta Brass are Brass coated Steel Cases and should be avoided at all costs.

I have some older Remington brass that has been perfectly fine. Can't speak to current production Remington brass, as I've not gotten my hands on any in the last 5 years.

[Duke Nukem]

I don't know what this is, I picked it up at the range, but it's plated steel with Berdan primer:

[Wobbly]

I don't know what this is, I picked it up at the range, but it's plated steel with Berdan primer:

It's a steel 9mm case with a Berdan primer.   



I thought at first glance it was one of the new Browning cases with the elk...



You have to look at them just right to see Bullwinkle.

[eastman]

  I have uniformly bad experiences sizing Aquila and Remington.

Another vote here  for Aquila being bad news, the bases simply won't resize.  Perfecta Brass are Brass coated Steel Cases and should be avoided at all costs.

I have some older Remington brass that has been perfectly fine. Can't speak to current production Remington brass, as I've not gotten my hands on any in the last 5 years.

I've shot well over a thousand rounds of Perfecta (9x19, 9x17, .45 and .308) and have never had a magnetic case. It is just as brass as any other Fiocchi product.

[waratah]

PPU 223 cases, my howa gails to extract this case often, no problems with any other brand so far.

S and B 357mag, triangular primer pockets.

[RoverSig]

^^ Those look allot like the cases that i got from Freedom Munitions a few years back.

Tok, I got some of the same "stepped" cases in ammo loaded by Freedom Munitions several years ago -- headstamped "Ammoland."   Based on internet research I did at the time, the cases were made in Turkey.   At the time, I thought they might have been made with the band at the web so they could handle "9mm NATO" loadings.   

I have to admit I have reloaded them many times, but I am working to weed them out of my large pile of 9mm brass.

[Duke Nukem]

Here's one that nearly got past me, bullet wouldn't hold the seat depth so I looked closer.



9mm Browning long Colt, 9x20