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Offline Triax60

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2020, 04:51:26 PM »

Not sure what you mean by "chunky" or where the chunk might be.

According to CZ-USA, the RAMI's dimensions (L x H x W in inches) are 6.5 x 4.7 x 1.25, whereas the P-01's are 7.2 x 5.02 x 1.38.  For comparison, the 75 B's dimensions are listed as 8.1 x 5.4 x 1.4.

Roughly approximating bulk (in cubic inches) as LHW/2, the compact (25) is 19% smaller than the full size 75 (31), while the subcompact (19) is 39% smaller than the full size and 24% smaller than the compact.

For my deep concealment needs I opted for the Beretta 3032 Tomcat over the RAMI.  The Tomcat's dimensions are 4.9 x 3.7 x 1.1, for an approximate bulk of 10 (47% smaller than the RAMI).






The frame grip of the Rami is thick, you can see it and you can definitely feel it. The Compacts can change out grips from thin to palm swell allowing people with different hand sizes to adjust the grip. You can't do this with a Rami, the grip on a Rami is thick. Measurements posted on a web page are from one point on the pistol which is not the overall pistol width. Yes, a point on the P01 is thicker than a Rami but overall the grip is thinner on a P01 than a Rami and the P01 allows more flexibility.
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Offline Vegas CZ

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2020, 06:52:59 PM »
The extended mag gives the option of getting a full grip, the short mag gives the option of less printing or more comfort when seated. If you have to have a fulI grip, obviously the Rami is too short with the short mag. Is the Rami "chunky"? Yep, it is. That's why it fits my hand better and is so comfortable to shoot.
FWIW, I talked myself out of the Rami for all the reasons listed above, some mentioned by people who've never carried one. Now that I own one and carry it every day, I've discovered that it works great for me. It isn't for everybody though and I doubt it was intended to be.

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Another vote for the "chunky" Rami. Find single stack don't fit my hand.

No right answer, its what is best for you. If your on the fence. Go with the P-01. If I could only have one gun it would be the P-01. 


Offline Conlin2

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2020, 08:14:13 AM »
I have both the RAMI and the P01 I carry and rotate them around because they are both great pistols.
CZ-2075 RAMI BD
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Offline benq

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2020, 11:32:25 AM »
I have a RAMI and PCR. Used to carry the RAMI until I bought a Shield.  RAMI is now my car gun.

RAMI is fun to shoot but cumbersome to carry. I thought of carrying the PCR for a split second.  There is not enough  difference between the two with regards to carrying. IMO Which is why I carry a Shield now.


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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2020, 07:00:22 PM »

Not sure what you mean by "chunky" or where the chunk might be.

According to CZ-USA, the RAMI's dimensions (L x H x W in inches) are 6.5 x 4.7 x 1.25, whereas the P-01's are 7.2 x 5.02 x 1.38.  For comparison, the 75 B's dimensions are listed as 8.1 x 5.4 x 1.4.

Roughly approximating bulk (in cubic inches) as LHW/2, the compact (25) is 19% smaller than the full size 75 (31), while the subcompact (19) is 39% smaller than the full size and 24% smaller than the compact.

For my deep concealment needs I opted for the Beretta 3032 Tomcat over the RAMI.  The Tomcat's dimensions are 4.9 x 3.7 x 1.1, for an approximate bulk of 10 (47% smaller than the RAMI).






The frame grip of the Rami is thick, you can see it and you can definitely feel it. The Compacts can change out grips from thin to palm swell allowing people with different hand sizes to adjust the grip. You can't do this with a Rami, the grip on a Rami is thick. Measurements posted on a web page are from one point on the pistol which is not the overall pistol width. Yes, a point on the P01 is thicker than a Rami but overall the grip is thinner on a P01 than a Rami and the P01 allows more flexibility.

 :-\

I've got Cool Hand grips on my RAMI. They're thinner than factory.
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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2020, 06:13:51 PM »
I ended up ordering a stablemate for my SP-01 Shadow today thanks to some of the fine suggestions offered here.  I have a new PCR coming in within the next week or so.  I already have a small cc gun, the 365, and if I wanted a single stack it would be a Shield.  I don't currently have a mid-sized compact so I was looking for something new in that category.  Size comparisons on handgunhero.com between the PCR and other compacts such as the M&P 9c, SR9c, P320 XCompact, etc show that the CZ is similar in overall length and height and generally is only about 1.5 - 2 oz. heavier than many of the poly frames.  I originally wanted the Sig XCompact but there are none currently available and I needed something to take away the Covid blues here in locked down Michigan so CZ it is!  Local gun range just opened back up, too.  Only thing I need is more ammo which I think I may have to order online. 

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2020, 09:58:14 PM »
Congratulations!

I doubt you'll be disappointed.

Offline Metallicat

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Re: Concealed Carry - Compact vs. Rami
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2020, 04:39:12 PM »
I picked up my PCR this morning.  I brought it home and cleaned out all of the sticky factory oil / grease and then relubed it.  The slide stop wasn't too difficult to remove on mine.  Not as easy as on my SP-01, but not too bad at all.
   
When I purchased my P365, it made my Kahr seem like a block of wood and so I ended up selling the K9.  The PCR makes my 365 seem the same way, like a chunky block of wood!  I know the two firearms are in different classes and aren't necessarily meant to compete with each other, but I was amazed at how nimble and comfortable the CZ feels. 

I don't mind the sites but will likely change out the front for a fiber optic unit at some point.  The grips seem nice and comfortable so they'll stay for now.  I'll likely throw a Cajun spring kit at it to reduce the trigger pull.  The trigger isn't bad but it is quite heavy as you all know.   

The one thing  that may take some getting used to is the location of the decocker.  It is is the way of my dominant thumb for a high thumb-forward grip but I think I just need to adjust to it.