Hello all, (fair warning, looong post with questions!)
I've been reading these forums for about a couple of months ever since I bought my CZ 75 P-01 when I came across this Site as an avid Internet researcher whenever I buy a new toy and tend to totally geek out on it! Thank you for the wealth of information and my apologies if this issue has been dealt with before and if I cut the line without delving more into the stacks of reading material in here already.
When I had originally decided on a CZ P-01, the only negative factor which I saw on various online comments and feedback was this "trigger slap" issue; admittedly not too many but in general the gripes about the "lower end" CZ 75 variants seemed to have been regarding their triggers. There was a here somewhere which I had read folks asking what is the first thing to do when one buys a new 75 model and most owners had opined about getting and installing the CGW's Old Style Trigger (for the 85 models?) incarnate version plus the floating pin and the reduced power trigger return sprint. So I ordered a few stuff from CGW including the mentioned items (the other items were just an extra mag and accessories not related to performance for this discussion). Then I read some more and I took it upon myself to call the friendly folks at CGW to see what else they would recommend to a complete CZ rookie like me (I'm an old school Beretta guy) and the gentleman who I spoke with recommended 54420 Ultra-Lite Kit and for good measure I also went ahead and added a SS guide rod to my order
Now a bit of background: I'm in the state of CA (San Diego) and with all the extra hoops we have to jump through in here, sending my new handgun out to CGW for a complete Pro-Kit conversion after a long wait period to be added to another half dozen to dozen weeks at CGW was not a great option for me so I decided to do some minimum recommended stuff to see how it goes before I embarked on something more substantial later on, perhaps with a second 75 version. I discussed what I wanted to do with my gunshop and they told me that the trigger job was a bit tricky for their resident smith so they had to have their part-time smith to pick up and work on it (reported a very capable smith who apparently does outside work for a few gunshops in here). If you have made it so far, thank you for bearing with me
The trigger did give this smith a bit of a hard time but he managed it. He called me and told me that for the hammer springs, the black one felt a lot better to him so that's the one which he installed, told me to handle, dry-fire, live-fire and see how I feel about it. When I picked up the gun, the trigger action was smooooth and in fact scary light and true to form and to CGW's description, it really felt like about half as much or even less pulling pressure and like I had said, SCARY LIGHT! That said, a bulb went on inside of my head and I went back to re-read the description and there it was: "the blue 13# for defensive and the black HS-12000 for range and competition with the former being deemed as reliable for igniting all primers". I even emailed CGW and in their response they stated that the blue 13# was in fact "mandatory" for defensive purposes (word they had used in response). So I took the P-01 back and they replaced it at the shop within a fast few minutes. I could've done this myself but just wanted it to be handled like I had commissioned it.
Now the DA, at least to me, is about how it was or thereabouts originally with the CZ factory set up! I honestly do not feel 50% reduction or anywhere near what I felt with the black CGW hammer spring. I know that my mind could be playing tricks on me, but without using numbers and percentages that could be open to disputes (I don't own a pull gauge) I know that the difference is how it felt and does now is quite significant. As far as the SA goes, there is a little bit of creep and then one very small almost gritty phase of the creep before it hits the wall. I don't know if it's the spring (they are cheap and I can order another), something went wrong during installation or what else? I will not be switching to the black HDS-12000 because this is not intended for range only and I do not compete either.
Final thoughts: I have ran through the possibilities that yeah, I may have half-arsed it by not sending to CGW but wanted to explore the other possibilities. It is also feasible that the "grit" which I had described was always there and it's something with the trigger but I just did not notice because how light the HS-12000 was, I really do not know but thought that the much more experienced folks can possibly shine more light. Also in closing, this post is not intended as a criticism of CZ because as a CZ convert, I'm already getting the RAMI 2075 as my subcompact
