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Offline WVSurveyor

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2020, 02:16:04 PM »
In your top picture it looks like your pistol was made in the Czech Republic. The one I have was made in the Kansas City USA plant. Don't know if that would have something to do with the difference in trigger creep. I hope yours works in nicely after you've shot it some. I'd be interested to hear from other P10 owners that have weapons from either place on what trigger creep they've experienced.
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2020, 02:22:48 PM »
He's not in the U.S.
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2020, 06:22:20 PM »
If you’re not happy with it just change it to the HB Industries trigger. Much better IMO. Flatter, wider trigger shoe, shorter take up, crisper break and shorter reset. Also comes with two reduced weight striker springs (-10% and -15%).


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Sorry, a simple trigger replacement won't change travel, break or reset.
 For Player66, your trigger will almost definitely improve after some initial wear, but it
will never feel as nice as a well used hammer fired gun. Dryfire, dry fire, dry fire . . .
Beg your pardon? An aftermarket trigger shoe with a different geometry of the trigger shoe pin will and can change the travel. Also the HB trigger comes with a different striker spring like i said which affects break.


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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2020, 07:52:43 PM »
If you’re not happy with it just change it to the HB Industries trigger. Much better IMO. Flatter, wider trigger shoe, shorter take up, crisper break and shorter reset. Also comes with two reduced weight striker springs (-10% and -15%).


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Sorry, a simple trigger replacement won't change travel, break or reset.
 For Player66, your trigger will almost definitely improve after some initial wear, but it
will never feel as nice as a well used hammer fired gun. Dryfire, dry fire, dry fire . . .
Beg your pardon? An aftermarket trigger shoe with a different geometry of the trigger shoe pin will and can change the travel. Also the HB trigger comes with a different striker spring like i said which affects break.


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Come on man, a spring doesn't make for a crisper break.

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2020, 08:02:40 PM »
If you’re not happy with it just change it to the HB Industries trigger. Much better IMO. Flatter, wider trigger shoe, shorter take up, crisper break and shorter reset. Also comes with two reduced weight striker springs (-10% and -15%).


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Sorry, a simple trigger replacement won't change travel, break or reset.
 For Player66, your trigger will almost definitely improve after some initial wear, but it
will never feel as nice as a well used hammer fired gun. Dryfire, dry fire, dry fire . . .
Beg your pardon? An aftermarket trigger shoe with a different geometry of the trigger shoe pin will and can change the travel. Also the HB trigger comes with a different striker spring like i said which affects break.


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Come on man, a spring doesn't make for a crisper break.
Ok boss whatever you say...I’m assuming you’ve replaced the trigger on this exact gun before right?


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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2020, 10:34:53 PM »
If you’re not happy with it just change it to the HB Industries trigger. Much better IMO. Flatter, wider trigger shoe, shorter take up, crisper break and shorter reset. Also comes with two reduced weight striker springs (-10% and -15%).


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Sorry, a simple trigger replacement won't change travel, break or reset.
 For Player66, your trigger will almost definitely improve after some initial wear, but it
will never feel as nice as a well used hammer fired gun. Dryfire, dry fire, dry fire . . .
Beg your pardon? An aftermarket trigger shoe with a different geometry of the trigger shoe pin will and can change the travel. Also the HB trigger comes with a different striker spring like i said which affects break.


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Come on man, a spring doesn't make for a crisper break.
Ok boss whatever you say...I’m assuming you’ve replaced the trigger on this exact gun before right?


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Umm yeah. . .along with two different CGW strikers, springs, a prototype striker housing, CGW trigger, pins, polishing, the list goes on. I'm no expert but I've been in there enough to understand what contributes to a crisp break and trigger travel/reset. Currently using the HBI trigger, it's nice but its only one component in a system. Nothing special here, plenty of other guys have thrown the same parts at their P10's. The threads are here if you care to look.
 My point is. . .if you have a gritty creepy oem trigger, you'll have a gritty creepy HBI trigger. The trigger shoe doesn't cause or solve either issue.

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2020, 01:01:57 AM »
Is the FCG for the P-10’s like a Glock or an m&p? I believe the former...? I suppose with that extra ‘cocking’ of the striker, it will set a limit on how good of a trigger you can achieve, whereas the M&p is just lifting a sear to release the striker.

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2020, 02:20:59 AM »
I'm just happy to see CZ represent in other countries! 8) Shoot your new toy as soon as you can and break her in.  ;)

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2020, 09:45:42 AM »
Nope, I am not from the USA, I am from Greece and this CZ is made in Czech Republic. Moreover, after having dry fired for about 100 times, the trigger has already been crisper. Unfortunately, I can't go shoot it yet since we are under severe quarantine due to that filthy corona virus.
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2020, 07:58:02 PM »
You live in a wonderful country rich with history and tradition, and DARN good food. We are happy to have you here, sir. May the restrictions be lifted soon.

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2020, 08:48:52 AM »
armoredman, thank you very much my friend. Have you been here? The only drawback in this country is that the gun laws are way too strict  ;D 8)
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2020, 11:03:41 AM »
So ok I'm new to CZ handguns but not CZ rifles but my take on the matter like someone else mentioned is dry fire  which i have done with every firearm i have. When i first got my Phantom i set here at the computer and dry fired it until I was blue in the face and then went to range with a nice sweet trigger, but yet it's a hammer gun so you would expect that. Then I got my P10 F OR and like my other striker fired i dry fired the hell out of it and the trigger does come around after a while(long), but it's worth it.
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2020, 12:18:03 PM »
Player66--
Congratulations on buying a great firearm.  I bought a P-10C when they first came out several years ago, just to see what I striker fired gun was like.  I never owned a Glock, always hammer fired, mostly CZ.  I had some difficulty with the factory trigger, so I changed the striker spring to a Glock 4lb spring.  I used Glock keepers also.  That made a big difference in the trigger feel. 

I could have stopped there for a defensive gun, but I thought it would be fun to try the CZ striker in a bullseye match.  So I continued to work with the little 4" barrel gun.  CGW came out with a competition only striker and I tried that, and polished the internals some.  That combination works perfectly for me.  Note that I prefer a "roll" trigger, not a crisp one, so that I can put some pressure on the trigger while steadying my aim, before it goes off. 

When the P-10F came out, I got one, put the 4# Glock spring and keepers in it with the CGW striker, all good.
When the P-10S came out, I got one, put the 4# Glock spring and keepers in it with the CGW striker, all good. 

I haven't done much polishing of the parts yet in the F and S, and I think I put the carry striker in the P-10S, but will add CGW parts as they become available.  I've got plenty of polymer guns to shoot right now, and limited ranges to use.  As you know, the trigger will always feel different than a hammer gun.  I my case, that isn't necessarily a bad characteristic, I just have to work with the striker guns more to become as proficient with them as I am with the hammer guns.

Do a search for Earlan357 in this forum.  He has posted more good information on the striker fired CZ's than nearly anyone here, I think.  Lots of good reading if you have the time.

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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2020, 03:33:45 PM »
Joe L, I can see that you have studied this issue very well so I am pretty sure I will willingly follow your excellent pieces of advice my friend. By the way, what is a CGW?
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Re: CZ P10 F, not exactly thrilled with its trigger
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2020, 03:54:47 PM »
By the way, what is a CGW?
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