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Offline briang2ad

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2020, 03:13:32 PM »
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I have shot several sub 4" groups at a 100 yards with the factory barrels/slides now in the polymer models.  I don't think any aftermarket barrel would improve on that.
 

Amen.

Just read a review on the P09 and the guy recorded a .75" group at 25 yards with PMC.  The comparison shot earlier on this page proves one thing:  With that particular load the aftermarket barrel is more accurate.  Do SOME OEM guns come more accurate than others?  For sure, CZs are known for accuracy and their barrels are CHF - something else to consider. 

I DO WISH all mu guns had polygonal rifling - nothing cleans up like these.

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #151 on: May 16, 2020, 04:25:29 PM »
Mine likes that cheap 9MM 115 grain FMJ Federal makes/sells.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #152 on: May 17, 2020, 07:06:30 PM »
I had a pretty spectacular day today with that awful looking P-10F barrel.  Best 5 shots of 10 at 200 yards under 5".  I don't think there is anything wrong with the barrel's performance.   :) :)
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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #153 on: May 17, 2020, 07:09:42 PM »
I had a pretty spectacular day today with that awful looking P-10F barrel.  Best 5 shots of 10 at 200 yards under 5".  I don't think there is anything wrong with the barrel's performance.   :) :)
Joe

If you still cannot go below 2" that means the barrel is bad.  O0

Kidding... JoeL, you are amazing... I wish to shoot at 100 feet like you shoot at 100 yards  ;) ;D

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #154 on: June 24, 2024, 11:39:45 PM »
And I was worried about those little smudges :D I bought second hand P-09 and there were lots of fouling in barrel. Now it is almost clean. There are just slightly reddish (or so) lines along grooves so I presume they are copper. Overall bore is nice and shine. I really don't know how many shots fired former owner but I didn't shoot this baby yet.
Cheers from Czech Republic. ;)

Dry barrel




Slightly oiled
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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #155 on: June 25, 2024, 07:55:35 AM »
Your new (used) barrel looks fine.  If it fits well in the slide, it should be fine.  Have fun shooting it. 

My post from above is 4 years old now.  I still have and shoot the P-09 with that barrel.  I have used aftermarket barrels in two of my P-10 pistols.  One pistol had a little tighter fit and grouping improved at 100-200 yards.  The other one had an excellent barrel like my P-09 from the factory, so not much of an improvement.  Both are very easy to clean compared to the slightly rougher machining of the factory barrels.   

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #156 on: June 30, 2024, 05:57:42 AM »
So those smudges were old carbon. It was impossible to get it out. So I gave it a few light runs with Meguiar’s NXT all metal polish on lacette and now it is like mirror 🙂 In my opinion it is less gritty then J-B or Iosso bore polishing paste.
https://imgur.com/gallery/rCOsUeJ
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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #157 on: July 01, 2024, 11:31:45 AM »
I've noticed, that I polished barrel crown too... Not whole muzzle just crown. Won't it rust easilly when shinny?

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #158 on: July 02, 2024, 09:39:05 AM »
I've noticed, that I polished barrel crown too... Not whole muzzle just crown. Won't it rust easilly when shinny?

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Re: P-09 barrel, clean enough?
« Reply #159 on: July 03, 2024, 01:43:47 AM »
First the bragging … I earned my Grand Master in Practical Pistol Competition in late 1995 or early 1996, who remembers dates … Expert in IDPA in three divisions in 2013 … B class USPSA Limited about the same time … held down first place nationally through most of last year in ABRA Factory class, shooting a nearly “stock out of the box” 10/22 LVT …
 
I’m one of the most resistant people you could ever find when it comes to cleaning a gun, usually just ripping the bore snake through my semiauto pistol until the feed ramp looks good, then lock it in the safe until the next match.
 
BUT … our club president introduced me to reality in .22 rifle barrels when he suggested that I clean my match barrel as usual, then soak a new bore brush in solvent, run it in and out a few times, then send a fresh patch down the bore. Amazing how much crud that will flush out, and how much better (kind of like when it was new) that barrel suddenly shoots.
 
So … in IDPA and USPSA matches where your 9mm or what have you is engaging targets at speed and not usually past 20 yards, just give it “a lick and a promise”. But if you want precision accuracy, work on that barrel until you can’t find a bit of residue from anything in it.
 
YMMV as the acronymists like to say. But give it a try, if you care.
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