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Offline SEAKPhotog

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P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« on: May 14, 2020, 09:38:41 PM »
Steel framed P01s are all the rage right now so I figured I'd post my first impressions after taking my Wee Beastie to the range for the first time this morning. As background, I own an SP01 decocker that's been Cajunized, SRO'd and well broken in. I love that gun and the thought of getting a cut down version was too tempting to pass up. I also have an internally polished P01 with an MCarbo spring kit, a Cajunized PCR milled for a Venom and a CZ 97 BD with a CGW pro kit and Venom. I definitely enjoy all metal guns. I was curious how much of a difference in handling and just the shooting experience the extra weight of the P01 steel frame plus the more ergonomic beaver tail would make vis-a-vis my P01 and PCR. I admit I'm more recoil sensitive than I'd like so the thought of a heavier, softer shooting CZ75 compact was very attractive. Found a steel frame for $650 new and it was on its way.

I've gotta say, the extra weight compared to the P01 and PCR feels terrific. It's a little, solid feeling tank. Hence its nickname, the Wee Beastie. Handling wise it's great. The beaver tail is more comfortable and it's a much softer shooter than its aluminum framed brethren. Much softer. A buddy of mine tried it out as well and he felt the same. I'm impressed and very happy with the purchase. Now I've gotta get to polishing the internals, installing a CGW pro kit and stainless steel guide rod and putting a red dot on it to get rid of the God awful iron sights. Then I'll have to get used to carrying that extra weight around. 🙄

Of anybody wants a softer shooting, more substantial feeling CZ75 compact, a steel framed versions is definitely the way to go.

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 01:51:47 PM »

Of anybody wants a softer shooting, more substantial feeling CZ75 compact, a steel framed versions is definitely the way to go.

Great review. I own a P-01 and was not even aware of the steel P-01 until a few weeks ago. If you don't mind me asking; where did you find it?

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 05:27:28 PM »
There are a bunch on Gunbroker right now. Just search under cz 99041. The best price for a new one is $700.11 with FREE shipping. I just got mine yesterday. It is odd to see a "20" date stamp on the slide and just like my 99021, the barrel is coated with the dark sealer. Previous 99041s had a polished or raw steel barrel if I remember correctly. Great gun, love the weight.

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 05:52:30 PM »
Thank you for posting your impressions!  I also picked up a new 99041.  In fact, it arrived just today!
I haven't had a chance to take it to the range and compare to my PCR and SP01 Shadow Target so I don't have any shooting impressions yet.  I brought it home and field stripped it, and cleaned it up to removed all of the sticky CZ factory grease, and then relubed everything.

Comparing directly to the PCR, the slide-to-frame fit on the steel model is noticeably looser than on the aluminum bodied PCR.  This is also true for my SP01 model.  The PCR slide to frame fit is tight, tight, tight!

The DA pull on the steelie seems to be just as good as on my PCR which has the CGW ultra lite spring kit installed and nothing else.  The SA pull on the PCR is better than the steel P-01 however.

I like the upswept beaver tail on the P01 better than the PCR, and enjoy the fact that it doesn't have the useless lanyard loop.  The grips had star washers installed under the screws which were not present on my PCR. 

Yes, the steel P-01 is certainly a little tank. It feels noticeably heaver just by picking up the two in their respective carrying cases.  In hand I certainly notice the extra weight at the muzzle end. 
 
I'll probably install the CGW defensive carry package on the steelie (or the lite spring kit at a minimum), change out the sights, and put different grips on it at some point in time.  I am still working on customizing my PCR so that comes first. 

Anyway, keep us updated with your progress, what sights you end up with, etc.  Curious as to what holsters people prefer for these little beasts for IWB carry.  I have a Black Arch Protos-M on order which should fit both pistols.  Also an AG is on order with kydex shells to fit both.  I have a Stealth Gear Ventcore for my P365 which I very much like and may eventually end up with another one.  Holster lead times are crazy now with the shipping, mfg, and all of the other flu related delays. 
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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 07:09:02 PM »

Of anybody wants a softer shooting, more substantial feeling CZ75 compact, a steel framed versions is definitely the way to go.

Great review. I own a P-01 and was not even aware of the steel P-01 until a few weeks ago. If you don't mind me asking; where did you find it?

Found mine at RifleGear. Best price I could find. Supposedly free shipping but not to Alaska anyway. Pretty fast shipping.

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2020, 07:23:40 PM »
Thanks for the review. I received mine on 5/14/20, took it home for clean and lube and went back to the range. My first outing is all of what you said. I fired 260 rounds with no issues. It is a soft and smooth shooter. I shot slow and rapid fire with 3 different powder loads and am impressed. Going back to the range tomorrow.

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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 03:19:33 PM »
Wow, thanks for your very detailed first impressions. Hopefully they'll be helpful to folks thinking about a Wee Beastie/Steelie.

I think slide to frame fit is just luck of the draw/individual gun dependant. My Steelie has a nice tight but still smooth fit. Better than my P01 and the same as my PCR.

And yeah, the grips. I have a love/hate relationship with the stock rubber grips. I love how they feel and fit hands but hate the fact they're "sticky" or "grabby" on clothes when it comes to drawing the weapon. I also sorta hate that star washer they use - it just chews up the grips. I just yank the grips and order Lok palm swells.

The DA felt really heavy to me but I didn't measure it before I stripped it down to polish. But then again all my CZs are polished with trigger jobs and 11.5 or 13lb main springs so my frame of reference is a little off at this point. The SA felt pretty good to me. Much better than the DA and more on par with my polished guns. It'll be fun seeing what trigger pulls I end up with.

Just this morning I got to cleaning and polishing the internals. I will say that my trigger bar is much better machined than my P01 and CZ97. No major machining or stamp marks. That was a nice surprise. The hammer strut is also in great shape. The safety plunger is in OK shape with that dang maching/stamp marks in the top just like the other CZ plungers with which I've dealt.

That's as far as I've gotten with my detailed inspection. Polishing the trigger bar is next but given its initial condition it should be easy.

I haven't closely inspected the slide yet.

I'm excited to get this polished and pro packaged. Now I'm just agonizing over a red dot choice and how I want to mount it. Decisions, decisions 😆

As for a holster, I carry OWB and have a buddy who makes kydex holsters that work well. I'll probably just ask him to make one. I do have a KT
Mech holster for my SP01 that I bought used here and love it. Of I do decide to not use my buddy that's where I'd order from.


Thank you for posting your impressions!  I also picked up a new 99041.  In fact, it arrived just today!
I haven't had a chance to take it to the range and compare to my PCR and SP01 Shadow Target so I don't have any shooting impressions yet.  I brought it home and field stripped it, and cleaned it up to removed all of the sticky CZ factory grease, and then relubed everything.

Comparing directly to the PCR, the slide-to-frame fit on the steel model is noticeably looser than on the aluminum bodied PCR.  This is also true for my SP01 model.  The PCR slide to frame fit is tight, tight, tight!

The DA pull on the steelie seems to be just as good as on my PCR which has the CGW ultra lite spring kit installed and nothing else.  The SA pull on the PCR is better than the steel P-01 however.

I like the upswept beaver tail on the P01 better than the PCR, and enjoy the fact that it doesn't have the useless lanyard loop.  The grips had star washers installed under the screws which were not present on my PCR. 

Yes, the steel P-01 is certainly a little tank. It feels noticeably heaver just by picking up the two in their respective carrying cases.  In hand I certainly notice the extra weight at the muzzle end. 
 
I'll probably install the CGW defensive carry package on the steelie (or the lite spring kit at a minimum), change out the sights, and put different grips on it at some point in time.  I am still working on customizing my PCR so that comes first. 

Anyway, keep us updated with your progress, what sights you end up with, etc.  Curious as to what holsters people prefer for these little beasts for IWB carry.  I have a Black Arch Protos-M on order which should fit both pistols.  Also an AG is on order with kydex shells to fit both.  I have a Stealth Gear Ventcore for my P365 which I very much like and may eventually end up with another one.  Holster lead times are crazy now with the shipping, mfg, and all of the other flu related delays.

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2020, 03:21:17 PM »
Thanks for the review. I received mine on 5/14/20, took it home for clean and lube and went back to the range. My first outing is all of what you said. I fired 260 rounds with no issues. It is a soft and smooth shooter. I shot slow and rapid fire with 3 different powder loads and am impressed. Going back to the range tomorrow.

Glad you like it! It really is a nice shooter.

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Re: P01 Steel Frame - 1st range trip thoughts
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2020, 01:06:59 PM »
I ended up purchasing a Black Arch single clip Protos M Holster for my P-01 which also perfectly fits my PCR.  The P01 received the CGW / Dawson low mount sight kit, the PCR received the night vision sights.  Both have the lite spring kit with no other work.  I shaved a bit too much material off of the rear sight on my PCR while fitting it, so it slided on with just thumb pressure. I used low strength purple loctite and it seems to be fine.  I do not like the high strength stuff that Dawson recommends personally.  The purple tightener is a product that I use on 9500 rpm cvt clutch arms with no issues so hopefully it is okay on this firearm.  If not I can always move up to the blue or eventually red.  But I prefer not to go that high (red).

I like the the red fiber front sight and black rear combination on the P01 better than the tritium on my PCR for my 50 year old eyes.