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Anyone have a checklist.
« on: June 04, 2020, 10:33:42 AM »

Anyone have a reloading checklist??

  For some time I have had all the materials needed to reload on my Dillon 550B. I've put it off though, do to life, for years no! Anyhow, I'm gonna do it! I'm re-reading material, rewatching online videos available now on YouTube. So, I wanted to start my first 9mm loads for my CZ 75B.
   Once I determine my cartridge overall length and initial charge... would anyone have a good check list for load developing or case prep/ reloading steps to use for pistol or rifle rounds reloading. Labels for containers? Would like to make either a poster size list, I can easily refer too on the wall, or printable small checklist, any rechecks i should always consider for the dillon 550b...things like this that I can use for each relaoding batch.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2020, 02:25:58 PM »
Are you saying this because you don't have a Load Manual ? I'm asking because the process is detailed in these manuals, not as a point by point, but it's there. And a recurring theme I see in beginning loaders is the dependence upon the internet for load data... as if load data is all that's in the manual... so that it's somehow entirely unnecessary to buy a manual. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I don't know, you didn't say. I'm not trying to second guess you, simply running here on past history.

If you don't own one, I would highly suggest the hardbound version of the Lyman #50.


In the interim, we've worked on bits and pieces of this a lot and I'll find some of those threads for you. BUT, you must realize that each process is highly individual and a lot of that is based on the choice of press. However, you are basically asking the same thing as "How do you drive a car ?" A bulleted list for an American driving a 40 yo column shift pickup truck on dirt roads in the deep South won't apply to someone dealing with street traffic in greater downtown London. See what I'm saying ?

Besides, everyone knows that you are allowed to drive a 40yo column shift pickup on the back roads starting at age 12 in the deep South.  ;D




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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2020, 05:17:40 PM »
Nope, as I said I have my materials, which includes load data... Speer, and Hornady manuals. I Was just wondering if anyone has made up any kind of check list, for each step, be it case prep... reloading steps ect. Just to glance at as a double check to yourself that a process was done, done safely, before moving on..Kind of a general quick check.., do this, then do this list. or work instruction. I understand there will be differences for every powder type, firearm, bullet, case type ect...I'm not looking for it to be that detailed.

Having labels with that info for ammunition boxes would be a good idea.

  I know all these steps are listed in my reloading manual...just seeing if someone's made something up like this and posted it for use...if not, I guess I'll make it myself.


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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2020, 05:36:51 PM »
The other issue is each type of press is Setup a little different. I spent a lot of time getting my used 550B with RCBS dies ready for 9mm. The setup manual from Dillon has a good outline to startup the process. Even after running a few thousand rounds I’m still whispering my loading mantra “powder - turn - bullet - primer - brass”. Maybe it will become second nature someday, but it’s kind of zen for now.

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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2020, 07:22:34 PM »
For some time I have had all the materials needed to reload on my Dillon 550B. I've put it off though, do to life, for years no! Anyhow, I'm gonna do it! 

Nope, as I said I have my materials, which includes load data... Speer, and Hornady manuals.

Well Chris,
The way I see it, we can keep guessing at what "materials needed to reload" means, or you could take the time to tell us exactly what you have. I much prefer the second option because my Lucas crystal ball is on the fritz again.

I see you have a 550, which is an excellent start. But which dies do you have ? Are the dies installed, and which set of installation procedures did you follow ? Which components (powders, bullets, primers etc) do you have ? Do you intend to clean your cases in any manner ? Is the press mounted to a bench ? Is there ample light in the work area ? Do you have calipers, and which kind ? Do you intend to load standing or sitting ?

Have you read all the information in our DIRECTORY stickie ?

Do you have a personal reloading notebook ?


I'm re-reading material, re-watching online videos available now on YouTube. So, I wanted to start my first 9mm loads for my CZ 75B.
If you intend to watch videos, then look at the ones on UltimateReloader.Com from his Dillon 550 section. Most of the people on YT are really clueless.  https://ultimatereloader.com/dillon/


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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2020, 09:16:08 PM »
Yes, yes. Just me not conveying well, what I'm trying to ask....what I am asking is... say you had everything needed...what type of checklist would you make as a quick reference guide or list of steps to check off as far as prep and processing/reloading.. for instance 9mm.

Dillion 550B
Dillon dies for 9mm, .308 and .223
Digital scale
RcBS 5.0.5 scale
CCI Small rifle and pistol primer
dillon lube
Franklin arsenal Wet steel tumbler
Abcs of reloading 9th ed.
Speer #14 manual
Alliant powder reloading manual
Flip trays
Digital Calipers
Round trays
Funnels
Bullet puller
Case gages
Franklin arsenal Case trimmer-deburrer station
Bullseye powder
Hodgdon Varnet
Power pistol
Bluebullets 9mm 147gr. And 125gr
Hornady 9mm bullets xtp 124 and 147gr.
Tons of deprimed and cleaned 9mm, .308 and .223 cases sorted.
Cz 75b 9mm
Colt AR15  .223/556
Rem 700...308


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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2020, 08:13:25 AM »
95% of reloading is in the preparation. So it's important to get all the materials (components & manuals) assembled and 'ready'. The order of Phase 1 is not important.

Special Note
A. For pistol reloading the process will be close to the following. De-capping will probably be done using a Universal Decapping Die.
B. For bottleneck rifle the process will vary. You may wish to de-cap with the Sizing Die because Trimming falls between Sizing and Reloading. 2 complete trips through the press. If you decide to de-cap with the UDD, then you'll have 3 complete trips through the press. Your call.


Phase 1 Preparation
• Open the reloading notebook to the appropriate page
• Open the main reloading manual to the appropriate page
• Write out on a small Post-It note the intended powder weight, bullet type weight and OAL
• Collect the appropriate components
• De-cap, wet tumble, and thoroughly dry the brass
• Check brass for Length and Magnetic Attraction
• Lube the brass. One squirt from 4 feet away for pistol.
• Caliber Conversion kit installed. Dies and Tool Head installed.
• Install correct Powder Bar
• Install correct size Primer Bar and primer Tubes
• Install the best Seating Die anvil for the bullet shape being seated

Phase 2 Adjustment
• Powder measure installed, filled 1/3 to 1/2 full
• Adjust powder measure output (average of 10, based on drops #11-#20)
• Adjust bullet seating to desired OAL
• Install 100 primers into the Primer Column
• Lube the press
• Build one single cartridge and check all finished dimensions

Phase 3 Production
• Turn ON press lamps
• Start production
• Recognize that first round may vary in OAL by ~0.005"
• Make minor OAL adjustment

Phase 4 Post Production Cleanup
• Empty the powder back into the appropriate canister
• Enter notes into Notebook
• Stack finished ammo into plastic bins. Place Post-It note inside bin.
• Put away all component containers and reloading tools
• Turn OFF press lamps
• Cover press
• Take note of component levels and re-order if required


- Lots of detail is not covered in this checklist. It assumes you know how and simply need a reminder.
- Case trimming is necessary for all bottleneck cases. Trimming takes place after Sizing, but before Reloading.


Hope this helps.
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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2020, 08:54:09 AM »
Further notes....

• You'll need to buy a Universal Decapping Die. The Lee product is the best value, but rust will make it unsightly. Squirt the outside with the Dillon Case Lube to coat it in wax. I apply DCL to all my die's threads before I install them into the Tool Heads. It simply makes things easier over time.

• You'll need at least 4 Tool Heads (1 for each of your 3 calibers, 1 for the DCL). I greatly prefer the ones from JoferUSA because they are nicer looking and cheaper. And they offer further discounts on multiples.



• Use the Speer manual as your primary resource. It's a better manual for general reloading. If you have a Hornady bullet, then switch to the Hornady manual. Otherwise consult the Speer.

• You'll want a press lamp. We highly prefer the UFO LED lamp kits from KMS Squared. They are at least twice the brightness of other brands.

• You'll want the Spent Primer Chute from UniqueTech to keep the press, the bench, and the air neat and clean. Route the hose into a sealed 5qt oil jug or 1gal milk jug. Something big and sealed.



• You'll want to place a big, fat o-ring between the Tool Head and the lock ring on the Dillon 9mm Seating Die. This makes OAL adjustment easy and at the same time stops die movement during production. This is one reason to squirt the die threads with Dillon Case Lube. The o-ring from Lee dies works great.



• You'll want to use the Bullseye powder when reloading 9mm. It's an older, but thoroughly adequate powder.

• It's important to lube new Dillon Powder Measures with powdered graphite, available at hardware stores in the Lock section. Squirt 1 puff into the hopper before each use until things loosen up and start moving. Adding office rubber bands (or springs) to assist the Powder Bar to return can be a good thing.



• You can and should practice making "powder drops" well before you start making ammo. Fill the hopper with your powder and find a spent 9mm case with a primer still in, and just run it through over and over. Weigh the first 10 drops and you'll see large variations, and in this way you'll learn never to use drops #1 thru #10. Practice changing the PM to achieve certain settings. Examples... 3.5gr, then 4.3gr, then 4.7gr.

• Marking your PM with a Sharpie Marker will help you remember which way to turn the adjuster. Buying the push-on knobs for Ebay will make adjustments easier.



• Finally, die settings are critical to making good ammo.
- The Sizing Die should be set to where it lifts the Tool Head at the top of the stroke, but the Tool Head should still be free to move. There is approx 0.008" of vertical free play in the Tool Head, and you should adjust your die to get a 0.004" lift.
- The Powder Die is adjusted up/down to result in the necessary belling. "Necessary" may depend upon the brand/style of bullet.
- The Seating Die is adjusted to deliver the correct OAL with the best anvil for the bullet shape. You may need to flip or change out the anvil.
- The Taper Crimp Die should be adjusted to result in the diameters suggested in the Taper Crimp discussion in the Stickies.


Hope this helps.
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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2020, 07:22:29 AM »
More than enough! Thank you!

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Re: Anyone have a checklist.
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 08:43:05 AM »
More than enough! Thank you!


Sorry, it's too late. I can't stop.  O0


• One of the best after market accessories to aid in quick detach of the Powder Measure is THIS PRODUCT.

• You'll see where lots of reloaders swear by buying a new powder measure for each Tool Head. At $100 a pop, that can get extremely expensive very fast. I think a far more realistic goal is to simply have 2; one set up with small powder bar, another set up with large powder bar. This cuts out the very annoying task of swapping Powder Bars. Especially when both are fitted with the Quick Detach and Adjustment Knob accessories, there's simply no need. Good used Dillon Powder Measures are on Ebay all the time in the $60-70 price range. If you can buy a broken one for $50 even better, because repair parts are free.

• After you practice running powder through the PM and get very adept at powder bar adjustment, it's time to build cartridges. But like the powder measurement exercises, start by building "test cartridges" (no powder, no primer). This is the best time to adjust the Belling, the OAL and Taper Crimp settings. And you'll get a lot of practical exercise with your calipers. Obviously we aren't talking about building 100, but 5 to 10 would be better practice than none. Once finished, these can be disassembled and all the components used again in "real" reloading.

• To disassemble the "test cartridges" you'll need a bullet pulling hammer (aka "kinetic hammer"). That's an accessory everyone needs anyway. Do not buy the cheap ones, spend $2 more and get a good one. RCBS, Lyman, and Frankfort Arsenal make good ones. RCBS is especially good about supplying replacement parts.

• Physical press mods are discussed here... https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=107798.0
Most of these (especially the lubrication mods) apply to 550, 650, and 750. The drilling of the bottom yoke is a 3 minute job if you have a 5/64" drill bit and a drill motor, and adds years of life and buttery smoothness to the press. The only change I've made since this thread was written is to start using a blue colored grease, which sort of hides itself when it happens to work its way out.

All the best.   ;)
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