Help needed from a new P01 Omega owner.

[Jaysop]

Just picked up and shot my P01 omega compact today.

It's the urban grey with the threaded barrel. It was supposed to come with 16 round mags but instead came with 15 round mags.
Confirmed this with CZ.

First question,
Are there mag extensions I can use on these? I was looking at Taran tactical but it doesnt say if itll work with the 15 round mags just the full size.

Second question,
The trigger is Meh. I was looking at CGW and there are full kits and individual parts. I really would like to lighten the DA and improve the reset. What do I need to do that?

FWIW this is my first CZ pistol and first non striker fired pistol, any help is appreciated.

[M1A4ME]

Yeah, mine came with the 16 round magazines but that was 3 or 4 years back.

Those 15's sound like the "new" compact mags.  Compact mags used to be 14 rounds.

The 16's are basically full sized CZ75 type mags. with a special floor plate on them that extends up the sides/front so there is no gap between the bottom of the frame and the floorplate/base of the magazine.

Check out Greg Cote LLC.

https://gregcotellc.com/cart/cz-factory-mecgar-actmag-c-173/mecgar-cz-75-compact-9mm-16-rd-extended-mgcz7516b0430177001-p-1639.html?zenid=jukr3hpv89mqm51930l9au6nv7

[jurek]

Agreed with M1A4ME about 16 rounds mag. Greg-Cote is the best source for these.

With trigger job...  it's mostly personal preference. I personally liked the original trigger, the only concern was DA pull and reset.
There are a few threads on this Forum where we discussed this already. Try to search and you find good answer.
These are what I've done on my Omega:
Definitely polishing is a must. Lighter hammer spring, CGW DA roller, Reduced Power Trigger Return Spring and Short Reset Kit (I kept original disconnector)
Good luck !

[Tok36]

How to Tune, Smooth and Upgrade the P-07/P-09 Much of this thread can be used for the CZ 75/P-01 Omega.
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=66147.0

Fine Tuning the P Series
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=66627.msg460119#msg460119

P-09 (and P-07) disassembly reassembly of frame part videos
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=63210.0

   Reducing the tension on the on the Trigger Bar Spring and sanding the side of the Trigger Bar flat that contacts the frame can help smooth out and reduce the pull weight of the Double Action. These points are covered in the first guide that i linked above. Note that aside from the roller the P-Series and the 75 Omega share the same frame parts and configuration.

[Jaysop]

Thanks for the tips guys. I've got like 20 new tabs open looking at all the trigger stuff.

As for the extensions, are the "OE" ones the only option? I'm not personally in love with the look of those.

[jurek]

I'm not sure if you are able to find anything what looks nicer... perhaps some third party base plate (which will cost you extra $30 or so).

Check these posts (there are pictures of P-01 with 16 rounder)
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=104123.msg809496#msg809496
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=43800.msg249544#msg249544
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=84978.msg637892#msg637892

[M1A4ME]

The bottoms used on the 16 round magazines do not add capacity to the 16 round magazine.  They extend upwards to fill the gap between the bottom and the frame to make it look more pleasing.

My two P01 Omega pistols.  UG has the 16 round magazine (you can see how the base fills the gap to make it look like a good fit to the frame).  The black one has the 14 round magazines for the Compacts with the soft rubber base rather than the metal base/floor plate that usually comes with the CZ75 Compacts (the steel framed/safety model).



Putting a standard +2 base on a 14 round magazine means it won't lock into your pistol frame anymore as the lip of the base will stick up far enough to block full insertion into the mag. well.

Putting a standard +2 base on a 16 round magazine will make it a 18 round magazine but leave a gap between the base and the pistol frame so you can see lots of shiny blue magazine (perfectly okay with me, but some people hate that look.)

Best picture I have to show the difference between a 14 round (top) and a 16 round with a +2 base on it (middle).  All that blue mag. body from the top of teh +2 to about the top of the rubber base on the 14 will be visible if you use a standard +2 base on a 16 round magazine.



Pay no attention to the bottom magazine.  It's a 16+2 CZ magazine with the mag. catch hole modified to use in my Browning BDM.  So now I have six or eight 15 round BDM mags and one 18 round BDM magazine.  Got bored one day and started working with a needle file to see if I could make it work.  It did.

[Jaysop]

Thanks for the heads up about the baseplates. I was thinking it was adding rounds not bridging a gap.

I read through all the trigger upgrades and while I'm no stranger to striker fired triggers the whole hammer thing is really getting me. There is a lot more going on in there.


I'm looking at CGWs site.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/75700-omega-kit/

Would this basically do what I want? Improve the DA and shorten the reset?

Seems like the hammer is really the most expensive component. I dont have any dislike for the current hammer but from what I'm reading it seems a smoother interface will clean up the trigger pull.
Is that right or am I misunderstanding?

[Greub]

Hammer will change SA feel. Crisper and lighter generally w aftermarket hammer.

For da, you probably want a lighter main spring. possibly extended firing pin depending on how much lighter you want to go. It’s advised to change the fpb spring and firing pin spring at least if you drop it to 13#.

Reset requires changing the disconnecter. Also would need to change fpb lifter, and do the expended firing pin and associated springs.

Easy to change da weight without much work. Reset requires a bit more but about 25% would overlap if you do both

[Greub]

bleep, forgot you were working with an omega. Think most of that still applies but idk. Don’t own one and haven’t worked on one. Sorry

[Linejudgemick]

I put a 14# main spring in mine and it helped the DA trigger feel in both weight and smoothness noticeably. As mentioned earlier, anything less and you might also need an extended firing pin and spring too. It didn't change the pistol otherwise and didn't noticeably change the SA. It was still a worthwhile change IMO. Good luck with yours, have fun and be safe.

[Tok36]

Thanks for the heads up about the baseplates. I was thinking it was adding rounds not bridging a gap.

I read through all the trigger upgrades and while I'm no stranger to striker fired triggers the whole hammer thing is really getting me. There is a lot more going on in there.


I'm looking at CGWs site.
https://cajungunworks.com/product/75700-omega-kit/

Would this basically do what I want? Improve the DA and shorten the reset?

Seems like the hammer is really the most expensive component. I dont have any dislike for the current hammer but from what I'm reading it seems a smoother interface will clean up the trigger pull.
Is that right or am I misunderstanding?

   Yes, this is the full 75/P-01 Omega kit. It can smooth out and reduce the DA pull weight, reduce the SA reset distance and reduce the SA creep and pull weight. Along with polishing and tweaking from the tuning guides you can expect a significant improvement all around.

Bear in mind that each pistol can be different from the next. In some cases multiple passes may be required it get your pistol to where you want it. After the first pass things should become more clear.

[em44052]

My first CZ I bought and still own is a PO1. I would go ahead and get CGW pro package along with good polishing, it will be a different gun when you are finished. Don't do what I did and buy a piece at a time from CGW. You will regret it and end up buying all of the components that make up the Pro Package in the end, and spend much more on shipping. Now when I purchase a CZ, I just go ahead and purchase the complete kit at once. One and done!

[Jaysop]

So quick update for anyone interested about mag extensions.

I ordered a Taran Tactical +2. After installing it on one of the CZ marked Mecgar 15 round mags no matter how I try, it wont accept more than 16 rounds. A lot of bulk for 1 extra round.
I've got a feeling it has to do with the follower.

[Claymore504]

On the trigger al I did to my P01 Omega UG/SR was a 13# hammer spring, extended firing pin with spring, CGW firing pin retaining pin and followed the link for smoothing out trigger on P07/P09. It made a huge difference.