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Offline M1A4ME

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2020, 12:48:03 PM »
I always preferred the outdoor ranges.  Private or out in the boonies away from people.

Or in the backyard, if you have the right kind of back yard in the right place.

Before I moved to this part of VA I had a large choice of shooting places. 

In the yard with a .22.  Dandelions, honey bees, grass hoppers, targets, acorns on a tree limb, soda cans, etc.  Distance was no more than 30 to 40 yds. to the woods behind the house.

Out on a reclaimed strip mine a few miles from the house.  Ranges from 25 to 600 yds.  Same range of targets plus, "see that rock up there to the right of that dead tree," " see the dead limb down low on the big tree back in that holler?", "see that soda can/water jug, etc someone tossed in the settling pond down there?"

And no one going down range to check/replace targets while you're sitting at a bench working to get a jammed rifle unloaded.

Used the 1911 and 230 grain FMJ to bust a limb up bad enough to finally break it so we could get it out of the old jeep trail we were using to take a short cut to a slate pile to do some shooting one day.  Didn't even think to take a chainsaw or pole ax to go shooting.  Just load the guns/ammo/water up in the old K5 and head out.  That locust tree had blown down partially across the dirt trail and I hated the thoughts of trying to back all the way back up that trail to the gravel road above.

I belong to an outdoor range here but it's limited to 100 yds.  Almost never go over to that range/lane when I go shooting though.  Got a crowd that hangs out there with bolt action rifles and big scopes.  Four or five guys.  They take up several benches with their rifles/gear.  One shoots, the other stand around behind the line BSing.  When the first guy gets done, a different guy sits down and starts shooting and the first guy gets up and starts talking to the other guys that weren't shooting.  I don't know if the sound of someone else throws them off or they don't have much ammo and like to maximize their time away from their wives.   Gotta ask 2 or 3 times to get a cold range and then they look at you like you've got no business being there.  Don't like the feel, so I just sight them in 1.5" low at 25 yds. and know they'll hit the serious stuff on out there.  If I was going to groundhog hunt I'd have to go to the 100 yd. range and get it dialed in good so I'd feel confident of making headshots.  Maybe should have typed "brain shots" as a head shot isn't 100% instantly fatal sometimes.

I still have the habit of taking multiple guns most range trips though.  Habit from the old days when we'd shoot 400 to 500 rounds or more in an afternoon.  Only now, it's seldom I shoot more than 50 or 60 rifle rifles and/or more than 100 to 150 pistol rounds (max). 
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2020, 12:49:43 PM »
And my steel might last longer if I could get my son to lay off the 10mm and the shotgun slugs !



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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2020, 03:21:52 PM »


At almost anytime of day. And sometimes, over the noise of all my neighbors shooting, I can even hear my own shots.

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2020, 07:49:02 PM »
... I still have the habit of taking multiple guns most range trips though...

If I'm planning to spend an afternoon (or longer) at my local outdoor range, I generally bring at least two per ammo type. Helps for times like last week when the rear sight of my Phantom decided it wanted to "free-float" and drift from side to side between shots (hitting 3-6" right of POA at 10 yards)
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2021, 11:50:07 AM »
100 yd indoor range is a no brainer for rifle load development. Only problem is you most likely have muzzle breaks shooting on either side of you!

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2021, 06:53:38 AM »
I've belonged to an members-only outdoor rifle club with 7 ranges of distances from 50 to 600 yards, open from 0600 to 2200, 365 days/year except for range maintenance for approx. 20 years.  I go there in all but the coldest weather.  I do not like indoor ranges at all for various reasons: lead level concerns, find them boring, obnoxious shooters in adjacent lanes at times, plus I'm cheap.  I can go to my club and shoot for free, besides the yearly dues.  Indoor ranges in my area are getting $20/hr.  Forget that!

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2021, 07:55:12 PM »
Both have their place.  Indoor is definitely more limited, but here in Northern Washington, weather does not usually cooperate so is a valuable resource.  Being able to move and shoot at outdoor ranges here is still difficult to find.  Lucky for me one of the best is only 15 min away.  But most of my shooting issues go back to fundamentals and those can be practiced and refined at static indoor ranges.  Here like in Germany, Korea, and Japan (got stationed a lot overseas) air quality is regulated by the state.  One of the uglier mishaps in that area was at one of my favorite indoor ranges Wades (see internet for stories).  Bottom line is owner made the corrections necessary and it is a top facility today.  Even shoot ASI matches twice a month.

Bottom line is I have memberships to both types of ranges. Pulling that trigger straight back without screwing up the site picture...

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2021, 09:12:15 PM »
 When I go to the indoor range, I go early morning and early in the week. Most of the time I'm the only one shooting.  I use indoor to test loads and sight in. Outdoors I test my ability to judge the conditions. All of this is with rifles. Pistols are entirely outdoor.
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2022, 07:19:41 AM »
And sometimes, over the noise of all my neighbors shooting, I can even hear my own shots.

 ;)

That was the biggest shock of moving to the country... ALL my neighbors shoot. I can hear target practice and hunting going on 360° around me any day of the week.
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2022, 08:49:46 AM »
And sometimes, over the noise of all my neighbors shooting, I can even hear my own shots.

 ;)

That was the biggest shock of moving to the country... ALL my neighbors shoot. I can hear target practice and hunting going on 360° around me any day of the week.

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2022, 11:08:18 AM »
I've shot at a lot of indoor ranges, but now I shoot 100% outdoor.

Obviously, if you live in an densely populated urban or suburban area you may not have a choice. What convinced me to change was the discovery that several of my local ranges were severe health hazards. The ranges are supposed to move volumes of fresh air from the shooter's position down range and out. What I discovered was that to save energy these few rangers where defeating the air handling by either not cleaning their filters or turning off the blowers completely. The proof of this was the coating of gray powder collecting on every horizontal surface within 20 feet of the firing line.

That gray 'dust" is of course Lead, and atomized and aerosolized Lead is not something you want to be breathing. Washing your hands after shooting to rid your self of 15mG of Lead is almost a waste of time, if you're going to inhale 200+mG during your visit.

Next time you go to your neighborhood range, take some white kitchen towels and do your own 'spot check' of some surfaces. You may be surprised.
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2022, 03:25:51 PM »
I love indoor ranges!! 

Keeps a lot of people off my favorite outdoor range, especially in the winter.   :D :D

I just can't handle indoor ranges very well, to be honest.  But I don't really have anything too much against them.  The additional noise and close quarters makes them less comfortable for me, that's all. 
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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2022, 03:36:30 PM »
I like outdoor ranges!!

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2022, 02:33:47 PM »
I must say that indoor ranges are great for getting brass.

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Re: Shooting range
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2022, 04:10:10 PM »
I've shot at a lot of indoor ranges, but now I shoot 100% outdoor.

Obviously, if you live in an densely populated urban or suburban area you may not have a choice. What convinced me to change was the discovery that several of my local ranges were severe health hazards. The ranges are supposed to move volumes of fresh air from the shooter's position down range and out. What I discovered was that to save energy these few rangers where defeating the air handling by either not cleaning their filters or turning off the blowers completely. The proof of this was the coating of gray powder collecting on every horizontal surface within 20 feet of the firing line.

That gray 'dust" is of course Lead, and atomized and aerosolized Lead is not something you want to be breathing. Washing your hands after shooting to rid your self of 15mG of Lead is almost a waste of time, if you're going to inhale 200+mG during your visit.

Next time you go to your neighborhood range, take some white kitchen towels and do your own 'spot check' of some surfaces. You may be surprised.

 Not necessarily. It's also unburnt powder and powder residue. At the large indoor range I used to run it was much more powder than lead. You are absolutely correct that an indoor range needs a good well maintained air system and frequent cleaning as your risk of exposure to lead is substantially higher shooting indoors than out.