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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2020, 04:28:45 PM »
Wobbly,

One of these day's I've got to meet the wizard behind the curtain.  If you're ever in AZ, shoot me a PM and I'll buy you a beer (and maybe even dinner!).

I can't tell if you're losing it or if it is purely a Covid induced dementia but some of your humor is truly funny.

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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2020, 07:53:41 PM »
If you need it it is yours...


Hey, Toby !

We have a reputation to live up to on this Forum. Don't be giving stuff away or befriending anybody.

And absolutely, no helping.

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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2020, 08:32:30 AM »
Watch out for Wobbs...he's mean. ;D

I heard he shoots chronographs and then blames other people. :o
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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2020, 08:35:27 AM »
Toby, thank you so much for the offer. I’m going to decline since I have no plans on doing that, using a PTX.  Your generosity is very much appreciated!

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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2020, 08:46:13 AM »
Watch out for Wobbs...he's mean. ;D

I heard he shoots chronographs and then blames other people. :o
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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2020, 02:03:07 PM »
Read what load manual says about cartridge.
Lead bullets:
First, the bullet diameter must be as large or larger than the cylinders' throats. Next, the bullet must be at least 0.001" larger than ACTUAL barrel groove diameter. Throat and groove diameters sometimes don't agree and you'll need a gunsmith to open the throats or you'll need to stick to jacketed bullets.
SAAMI specifications for the industry (not for reloaders) so ammunition works safely in all guns:
Bullet diameter: 0.4500-0.4560"
Throats: 0.4555-0.4595"
Groove diameter: 0.450-0.454"
Given this, best guess for lead bullet diameter without checking actual gun would be 0.456-0.458", unless you have the 0.4585-0.4595" throats...
Powder:
Don't know what your gun will like, but I would start with Bullseye, 231/HP38, Red Dot, or AA2. Unique and True Blue would be worth looking at.
Bullet weight:
Not a purist. 200-260gn. Keith-style SWC would be my fist choice if shooting lead bullets.
Of course, you are asking when NOTHING is available.

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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2020, 07:25:55 AM »
Read what load manual says about cartridge.
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but I would start with Bullseye, 231/HP38, Red Dot, or AA2. Unique and True Blue would be worth looking at.
Bullet weight:
Not a purist. 200-260gn.
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 Keith-style SWC would be my fist choice if shooting lead bullets.
.......
Of course, you are asking when NOTHING is available.

Thanks - I have read through the manuals I have, but wanted real world opinions - thanks for giving them

I have various powders.  I'll be looking for some of the trail boss.  I have over 7 other pistol powders and at least 5 of them have info in load manuals.  3 of them have been mentioned here that I'll try first.

Good to know about the keith style bullet - had to look that one up.  Looks like I lucked out and that is what I got 500 of to try - in 255 grain.

So the only thing I lack are the dies.

I called Hornady and the guy said for lead get the "cowboy" due to the typically larger diameter bullet.  For jacketed get the standard dies.  Both can be used but neck tension might not be good enough for the jacketed with the "cowboy" dies.
Sizing die is the same, the expander and seater are different between the 2 sets.
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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2020, 12:56:34 PM »
I've been loading 45 Colt for years. I just checked the SAAMI drawing and it isn't a tapered case. As straight as it can be.

There is no difference between regular dies and Cowboy dies. Cowboy usually refers to loading light, in my experience. No point in beating yourself or the gun up. And Cowboy targets are generally steel.

I use the RCBS 3-die set and load on an RCBS Pro2000. I load SNS Casting 250 gr LRNFP. I shoot them out of a Henry Big Boy and a pair of Vaqueros. I recommend checking a load manual or two for load data. For years I loaded Unique. I am about out, and have a lot of TiteGroup so am starting to load that under my 250 gr. Depending upon velocity hardness matters, to reduce leading in the barrel. I find SNS does a good job with their hardness and I have little leading problems with their bullets. If they do lead up I use my DIY lead remover to scrub it out.  On the other hand there are plenty of options for coated bullets, if you prefer that. I also recommend case lube, as the cases are really long.

I recently took up Cowboy and definitely load light. You'll find plenty of opinions as to the best powder and so on, for Cowboy. I am in no position to recommend one Cowboy powder over another, if that is what you're looking for. When I started loading light for Cowboy I found I had a lot of unburned Unique. Lighter loads means lower pressure and Unique does better at higher pressure. TG does better IMHO.

As with all revolvers, the round uses a roll crimp. I just followed the RCBS instructions long ago and never changed. My standard OAL is about 1.600, which you'll see commonly in the load manuals.

Again, read the directions that come with the dies and have fun. BTW, I chronograph pretty much all my loads, pistol or revolver.

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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2020, 04:02:25 PM »
I've been loading 45 Colt for years.


Then your reloading room must be about 2 feet deep in ammo.  ;D
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Re: Thinking of loading for 45 Colt - need some input.
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2020, 04:22:47 PM »
I've been loading 45 Colt for years.


Then your reloading room must be about 2 feet deep in ammo.  ;D

LOL. I forgot to mention that I also shoot.  I try to keep an inventory of 300-400 rounds of my various calibers in my ammo locker. But that can be pretty variable, depending upon how ambitious I feel.