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Offline MadDuner

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165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« on: October 17, 2020, 05:35:12 PM »
I am trying to get some 9mm Extreme 165gr round nose projectiles to 1050fps.

I’ve tried TiteGroup and Unique, both of which are my normal 9mm go to powders.  They both get to over pressure before the projectile gets going any faster than 900fps.  This is for use in my Scorpion Carbine with suppressor. 

What powder would anybody recommend for this endeavor?

I’m all ears!

Offline George16

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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 07:28:44 PM »
Use slower powders such BE 86, Winchester Autocomp, Shooters World Major pistol/AA7 or HS6.

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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 08:22:18 PM »
Concurr with Sir Geroge.
What length is your barrel and do you run suppressor or comp?
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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2020, 08:30:58 PM »
Concurr with Sir Geroge.
What length is your barrel and do you run suppressor or comp?
I am running 16” barrel suppressed.

Offline John A.

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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 08:37:11 PM »
Slower powder.

I use TG for my suppressed plinking load.

If you want to get up to (or past) 1050 fps in a 16 inch barrel, switch to a 147 gr bullet and back off of the titegroup some because 147's will break super out of 16's when you load them normally.

That's why the Israeli's used 158's in their uzi's so they didn't do that.
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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 09:04:38 PM »
I’ve got the 147s dialed in perfectly with TG.

But no such luck with 165s yet.

I know I need a slower powder, but was hoping to not have to buy 4 kinds before finding the right one.

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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2020, 09:31:35 PM »
I’ve got the 147s dialed in perfectly with TG.

But no such luck with 165s yet.

I know I need a slower powder, but was hoping to not have to buy 4 kinds before finding the right one.

Any of those slower powders I mentioned will be good for your application. I have tried each of them for Major PF at 172 but chose the AA7/SWMP for exclusive use in my open gun.

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Re: 165gr 9mm to 1050fps?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2020, 09:37:14 PM »
I’ve got the 147s dialed in perfectly with TG.

But no such luck with 165s yet.

I know I need a slower powder, but was hoping to not have to buy 4 kinds before finding the right one.

Any of those slower powders I mentioned will be good for your application. I have tried each of them for Major PF at 172 but chose the AA7/SWMP for exclusive use in my open gun.

Thank you.

I will see what I can find available.