Having a hard time not ordering a Glock 48

[matto]

I'm relatively new to pistols and I fell hard for CZ.  I bought a Shadow 1 and Shadow 2 for competition,  and a P-01 and P-07 for carry.   The P-01 is my absolute favorite of the bunch.   It's like it was made for my hand

However.. when it comes to carry I'm looking at the G48 and starting to question my life choices.  Here are some facts comparing the G48 to the CZ P-01

• The G48 is significantly lighter (EIGHT oz lighter)
• The G48 is narrower for less belt bulge
• The G48 has almost half an inch longer barrel (0.42 inches) for higher velocity
• The G48 has a longer sight radius
• Both are roughly the same overall length and height and have full size grips that are easy to draw and secure the gun when firing
• Both allow thumbing the "hammer" when holstering if you put a striker control device on the glock

The G48 wins in almost all objective categories, many of them being important categories.  Lighter, more comfortable, and yet still more functional with longer sight radius and longer barrel for higher velocity.  It's really quite impressive.

I shot a Glock 19 once and didn't particularly enjoy it. But if I put in the time with a G48 I'm sure I could be proficient with it - and doing so would gain me all of the advantages listed above.   Someone remind me why I should carry around a bulkier extra half pound in my pants for the rest of my life with the CZ?   Is this just style over functionality at this point?   



EDIT: I'm in a 10-round state so any capacity beyond 10 doesn't help me.  That's why the 48 seems preferable over the 19, assuming the 48 grip works for my hand.

[2morechains]

I used to carry a G43 with TTI +2 basepads for 8+1 rnds and thought about getting the G43X when it first came out to have 10 rnd capacity, but chose to wait until the 15 rnd Shield mags were released for the G43X/G48.  I don’t particularly enjoy shooting Glocks, but have to admit they are reliable and I do own a G34 that I’ve shot in competition.  The G43/43X/48 are nice to carry for all the reasons you specified.  But when the Sig P365XL came out one shooting session with that gun pretty much sold me.

I live in a state where we’re not restricted to 10 rnd mags, so the 12 rnds flush fit mag on the P365XL or the 15 rnd extended mag fit what I was looking for in a carry gun.  I believe the dimensions and weight are pretty close to the G43X/G48 so that’s pretty much a wash and it comes down to whatever fits your hand better and how well it shoots for you.  For me, the Sig was the clear winner.

One thing I will say, the grip angle on Glocks is a little different than my CZs or other guns I shoot more often.  So the few times I do shoot a Glock I need to dry fire it a bit to remind myself to cant my wrist differently.     

Sounds like you’ve got your mind made up.  Happy to help you spend you $$

[matto]

Sounds like you’ve got your mind made up.  Happy to help you spend you $$

Hah.  Well, no actually.  Being honest, I'm looking for a logical reason to not buy the glock.  I've ordered to bleep many guns this year.

I actually have a P365xl waiting to be picked up at my LGS as soon as my permit allows.     My plan was to see if I can shoot it decently and go from there.   Glad to hear you like yours.   So you don't carry CZ's?   

The G48 still has some pros on paper compared to the Sig thought.   Longer barrel, longer sight radius, easier to grab grip (it's a pro assuming you can conceal it), striker control device for AIWB...    It's the size of the P07 and the weight of the P365xl.   Not sure why Glock is the only one who can do this.

[2morechains]

I sometimes carry my P10C, but it’s definitely bulkier than my 365XL or G43. So more of a winter gun when I can wear heavier cover garments. 

But ever since I got the P365XL my G43 lives in a backpack, my P10C is more of a bedside gun, and the 365XL seems to be the one I put in my pants most days.  I can conceal it easily in an AIWB under a t-shirt (not something I can do with the P10C) or it literally disappears under a pull over or untucked button up.  Plus it shoots fairly well and I don’t get slide bite like I do when I shoot Glocks.   

I used to carry all-steel frame guns.  1911’s, compact 1911’s, a Kahr for a while, and even had my CZ-75 Shadow in the mix.  Then I got old and trended towards lighter polymer guns.  My current USPSA comp gun is the Shadow 2, but every now and then I pull out the P10C or P365XL for a fun match. 

[BStill]

I've been thinking the same way about the G48.

I also fell in love with the P-01 a few years ago and would never part with it.  I have a decent IWB holster for it (just in case) but never actually carry it.

I'm a big fan of DA/SA and when I started carrying a few years ago I looked long and hard for a small concealable DA/SA pistol before settling on a snubby revolver (LCR).  Carried that for several months and then shot a buddy's G43 and switched to that, usually carried with the +2 mag unless I need to tuck the shirt.   I also installed the SCD to (somewhat) simulate the peace of mind of a hammer.  I love the concealability of the G43.  And learning to consider a good holster and good holster discipline to be the physical mechanical safety has made me more comfortable carrying a striker-fired gun even though in principle I would prefer a DA/SA.

I had previously handled a G48 and the grip felt really good in the hand.  But 8+1 in the smaller G43 was sufficient so not worth the G48 extra size for just two more rounds.  But now the extra capacity of the Shield mags change that calculus.  Eventually I will add the G48 and probably carry it primarily with my G43 slide as a G43x in my same favorite IWB holster. 

I did rent a P365 before I bought the G43 but just didn't like the shorter trigger pull and longer reach.

I may also get an OWB holster for the P-01 for winter carry, once I finally upgrade the sights and switch to thinner grip panels.  But generally I prefer the tighter concealment of IWB even when wearing a jacket, so I agree the 15-round G48/43x is simply more practical with same capacity.

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[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I see absolutely nothing here that makes the g48 a winner over the P-01 and it comes down to personal preference and opinion and simply what you do best with in your own hands. Of course as you have admitted you are relatively new to pistols so there's that. What you see on paper and what becomes reality will more often than not be two entirely different things. Unless you get to shoot the gun before purchase you actually have no idea whether it will perform better or not in your hands.
Other than a small weight difference the g48 shows me no advantage. I've carried a CZ 75D PCR (same as P-01 no rail) for eleven years and wouldn't trade it for 2 glocks of any type. Weight doesn't bother me and I can carry a full size 1911 or CZ75 all day with no problem. If weight is that big an issue for you then go with the glock.
The slightly longer barrel of the g48 is less than half an inch and that does not guarantee higher velocity in any way shape or form. If you were into handloading this would be easier for you to understand but to simplify things you could actually see less velocity from a longer barrel and sometimes no change at all.
To be fair here I get free range rentals with my membership so I have fired the g48 and being honest I'm no fan of striker fired pistols either so there's that. I've handled and fired all the latest including the P365, Hellcat, Mossberg all of them.
Welcome to the world of handguns as you'll find many you thought would work out won't and you may be surprised by some that do.

[double-d]

Though not being able to help on your question OP (will never own a striker fired pistol), I wish you the very best on your new journey!

Then I got old and trended towards lighter polymer guns. 

If I get too old to carry a steel pistol, I probably shouldn't be carrying.

My carry pistols have and will always be steel 1911's & CZ-75's....and I'm no longer a spring chicken.
Can't imagine myself shuffling into the Golden Corral with a plastic pistol in a fanny pack. Nope.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Though not being able to help on your question OP (will never own a striker fired pistol), I wish you the very best on your new journey!

Then I got old and trended towards lighter polymer guns. 

If I get too old to carry a steel pistol, I probably shouldn't be carrying.

My carry pistols have and will always be steel 1911's & CZ-75's....and I'm no longer a spring chicken.
Can't imagine myself shuffling into the Golden Corral with a plastic pistol in a fanny pack. Nope.

HAHA! Funny you mention this. I have owned many sub compact pistols and revolvers over the years and yet in my nearly senior years I would much rather have at minimum a double stack metal framed compact if not a full sized pistol on my belt. I'm not in a restricted state so I'll take all the capacity I can get.

[double-d]

I would much rather have at minimum a double stack metal framed compact if not a full sized pistol on my belt. I'm not in a restricted state so I'll take all the capacity I can get.

Me also too.... this one gets carried way more than the rest.  13 rounds of 45acp + one in the pipe.
Admittedly though I am still in my sixties...




Not trying to highjack your thread matt, simply pointing out that everyone has differing tastes, uses and opinions. YMMV.

[Trh9905]

Don’t forget that any Glock offers up one huge benefit. 

I was told that any Glock can be fine tuned by using
your wife’s hair dryer.


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[matto]

Don’t forget that any Glock offers up one huge benefit. 

I thought you were going to say: "it's easy to sell when you realize you hate the trigger and grip angle"

Thanks for the input everyone.   I found a place that rents glocks so I'm going to spend an hour this afternoon shooting a G43/48/19/17 and see what I think.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Don’t forget that any Glock offers up one huge benefit. 

I thought you were going to say: "it's easy to sell when you realize you hate the trigger and grip angle"

Thanks for the input everyone.   I found a place that rents glocks so I'm going to spend an hour this afternoon shooting a G43/48/19/17 and see what I think.

This is absolutely the best way to go whenever possible. I've found it very disappointing several times over the years buying a gun only to find I hated it when I finally got too fire it.

[matto]

I shot the 17, 19 and 48.   I didn't hate them. bleep it.

I liked the 48 the least but it still wasn't bad. I actually shot them about as well as my Shadow which kinda shocked.

The recoil impulse is stout but comes back on target quickly.  I liked them far more than my X5 Legion, which I will be selling. The recoil impulse is just weird on the legion.

[Ron M.]

One (or maybe 2) more Glocks you really should try. The G19X (or G45) The full size frame with the shorter slide produce a recoil impulse that's easier on the hands and to control than any other 9mm Glock I've tried. They're the only Glock pistols I like enough to own.

[P35guy]

Good luck with your search.  Have you looked at the Walther pistols? I don't own one but have handled several and they have features that you seem to be seeking