CZ52 Value

[Palmetto Marsh]

.First thing I would do is to have a reputable gunsmith make sure the gun is able to handle your  vintage ammo.  With the unique cam and roller breech locking system the ‘moving parts’ have to be up to spec. and if not the gun will easily jam or worst. That’s why It was only produced for two years and had limited use in the field. 

Very unique gun, fun to shoot, but rarely goes to the range with me. I have two of them: a 9mm and a 7.62x.25.
Be safe!!

[elhefe86]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well. 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

You stated the ammo was sub gun ammo so that stuff is antiquated surplus so it's not worth .30 a round. We bought that surplus stuff years ago for $69 for  1280 round tins and it was lousy ammo back then. The guns were fun when they were cheap to buy and cheap too shoot but that time has passed. If you plan on shooting that gun much you'll need to try and find an armorers kit for it and you will need it. The .44 ammo and primers sound like a decent deal but the rest. I'm not seeing it.
So at any rate as I said I hope you enjoy your purchase and if you are satisfied that you got a good deal then that's all that matters.

[Rock-it3]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

I winced at first when I saw the $1K amount, but then started doing some ciphering. I agree with SI VIS that 7.62x25 used to be very cheap, but those days are gone even without the COVID-induced seller's market. Even at $.20/rd x 2970 = @600. You are probably low on the 44 Mag for Hydra Shoks, even in a normal market. I'd guess over $200. So you are at at least $800 for the ammo. I don't think you could buy a CZ52  straight up for $200 anywhere in the U.S. I'd say you did fine. Also, all of the reading I have done says the C52 is a very robust and strong action, more so than other 7.62x25 pistols designed and built elsewhere. Shoot it and enjoy it.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

I winced at first when I saw the $1K amount, but then started doing some ciphering. I agree with SI VIS that 7.62x25 used to be very cheap, but those days are gone even without the COVID-induced seller's market. Even at $.20/rd x 2970 = @600. You are probably low on the 44 Mag for Hydra Shoks, even in a normal market. I'd guess over $200. So you are at at least $800 for the ammo. I don't think you could buy a CZ52  straight up for $200 anywhere in the U.S. I'd say you did fine. Also, all of the reading I have done says the C52 is a very robust and strong action, more so than other 7.62x25 pistols designed and built elsewhere. Shoot it and enjoy it.

The biggest issue is the ammo. As I posted earlier in the thread the ammo was sketchy 20-30 yrs ago and it hasn't gotten any younger. The supply of over seas surplus dried up years ago so the really cheap to buy stuff is gone other than what someone may have on hand already here. The commercially made stuff is expensive and hard to come by and with the current situation you can be certain the manufacturers are not giving any consideration to old rounds like the 7.62X25.
Yes the guns are robust with their roller locking breach system but 2 key things to keep in mind. The firing pins are cast and are notoriously brittle so dry firing is a big no no. The pin will break if this is ignored. The other point of interest is that the decocking function SHOULD NOT BE USED as it has been noted on many guns that doing so causes some indentations on chambered live rounds so the potential is there for an unintentional discharge. There used to be a few places making some upgrade parts for the CZ52's but that's been a few years ago and I'm not sure they are still around. Do some research on the gun and procure some spare parts if possible.

[Rock-it3]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

I winced at first when I saw the $1K amount, but then started doing some ciphering. I agree with SI VIS that 7.62x25 used to be very cheap, but those days are gone even without the COVID-induced seller's market. Even at $.20/rd x 2970 = @600. You are probably low on the 44 Mag for Hydra Shoks, even in a normal market. I'd guess over $200. So you are at at least $800 for the ammo. I don't think you could buy a CZ52  straight up for $200 anywhere in the U.S. I'd say you did fine. Also, all of the reading I have done says the C52 is a very robust and strong action, more so than other 7.62x25 pistols designed and built elsewhere. Shoot it and enjoy it.

The biggest issue is the ammo. As I posted earlier in the thread the ammo was sketchy 20-30 yrs ago and it hasn't gotten any younger. The supply of over seas surplus dried up years ago so the really cheap to buy stuff is gone other than what someone may have on hand already here. The commercially made stuff is expensive and hard to come by and with the current situation you can be certain the manufacturers are not giving any consideration to old rounds like the 7.62X25.
Yes the guns are robust with their roller locking breach system but 2 key things to keep in mind. The firing pins are cast and are notoriously brittle so dry firing is a big no no. The pin will break if this is ignored. The other point of interest is that the decocking function SHOULD NOT BE USED as it has been noted on many guns that doing so causes some indentations on chambered live rounds so the potential is there for an unintentional discharge. There used to be a few places making some upgrade parts for the CZ52's but that's been a few years ago and I'm not sure they are still around. Do some research on the gun and procure some spare parts if possible.

Good advice, SI VIS.
I reload for my CZ52 with Hodgdon H110 and either Hornady 90 grain XTP's or some locally made 95 grain polycoated RN, but I should still pick up some spare parts like rollers and firing pin, just in case, because it is a fun gun to shoot and I'd hate to lose it.

[Terminatorret]

I replaced my OEM firing pin and rollers with Harrington parts. If you feel comfortable, I would call the original owner and ask him if he ever replaced these.

https://harringtonproducts.com

Enjoy your purchase..."they don't make them anymore".

[elhefe86]

I replaced my OEM firing pin and rollers with Harrington parts. If you feel comfortable, I would call the original owner and ask him if he ever replaced these.

https://harringtonproducts.com

Enjoy your purchase..."they don't make them anymore".

Thank you!  Ordered new firing pin, rollers, extractor.

[elhefe86]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

You stated the ammo was sub gun ammo so that stuff is antiquated surplus so it's not worth .30 a round. We bought that surplus stuff years ago for $69 for  1280 round tins and it was lousy ammo back then. The guns were fun when they were cheap to buy and cheap too shoot but that time has passed. If you plan on shooting that gun much you'll need to try and find an armorers kit for it and you will need it. The .44 ammo and primers sound like a decent deal but the rest. I'm not seeing it.
So at any rate as I said I hope you enjoy your purchase and if you are satisfied that you got a good deal then that's all that matters.

FYI, listed a little ammo on GB as I do not need 3k rounds.  Currently at $.50/rd, so I think I faired well.  If that pans out i'd be at $1,500 alone on the ammo..  Just saying, but COVID prices are real and I did research before the purchase on this. 

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

You stated the ammo was sub gun ammo so that stuff is antiquated surplus so it's not worth .30 a round. We bought that surplus stuff years ago for $69 for  1280 round tins and it was lousy ammo back then. The guns were fun when they were cheap to buy and cheap too shoot but that time has passed. If you plan on shooting that gun much you'll need to try and find an armorers kit for it and you will need it. The .44 ammo and primers sound like a decent deal but the rest. I'm not seeing it.
So at any rate as I said I hope you enjoy your purchase and if you are satisfied that you got a good deal then that's all that matters.

FYI, listed a little ammo on GB as I do not need 3k rounds.  Currently at $.50/rd, so I think I faired well.  If that pans out i'd be at $1,500 alone on the ammo..  Just saying, but COVID prices are real and I did research before the purchase on this.

Controlavirus prices ARE real for those who failed to stock up on ammo when everything was cheap. Fortunately I don't have to weather this storm by paying those prices. I fail to understand WHY you would want that gun yet sell off the ammo???  If you plan on shooting it the smart thing to do would be keep the ammo. That stuff just isn't available everywhere today and at some point you may well have to pay much more to replace it than you're selling it for.
I would consider 3K rounds not enough.

[elhefe86]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

You stated the ammo was sub gun ammo so that stuff is antiquated surplus so it's not worth .30 a round. We bought that surplus stuff years ago for $69 for  1280 round tins and it was lousy ammo back then. The guns were fun when they were cheap to buy and cheap too shoot but that time has passed. If you plan on shooting that gun much you'll need to try and find an armorers kit for it and you will need it. The .44 ammo and primers sound like a decent deal but the rest. I'm not seeing it.
So at any rate as I said I hope you enjoy your purchase and if you are satisfied that you got a good deal then that's all that matters.

FYI, listed a little ammo on GB as I do not need 3k rounds.  Currently at $.50/rd, so I think I faired well.  If that pans out i'd be at $1,500 alone on the ammo..  Just saying, but COVID prices are real and I did research before the purchase on this.

Controlavirus prices ARE real for those who failed to stock up on ammo when everything was cheap. Fortunately I don't have to weather this storm by paying those prices. I fail to understand WHY you would want that gun yet sell off the ammo???  If you plan on shooting it the smart thing to do would be keep the ammo. That stuff just isn't available everywhere today and at some point you may well have to pay much more to replace it than you're selling it for.
I would consider 3K rounds not enough.

I'd rather have non-corrosive if possible.  Just selling a little bit off to fund the purchase and 3k ammo for this gun to me is excessive as I do not have another gun that fires this round.  If SHTF I would not be using this, but rather and AK/AR setups.

[elhefe86]

Ouch! Well hope you enjoy your new purchase.

Curious why you say ouch?  Pistol value lets say $300 (pristine condition (not refurbished) with a pig skin holster for gun and mag), 44 mag ammo $150 easy right now for 220 rounds of mostly hydra shok, and 7.62x25 ammo at $.30/rd is above $800.  Got 5k winchester large pistol primers for an extra $100 as well.

You stated the ammo was sub gun ammo so that stuff is antiquated surplus so it's not worth .30 a round. We bought that surplus stuff years ago for $69 for  1280 round tins and it was lousy ammo back then. The guns were fun when they were cheap to buy and cheap too shoot but that time has passed. If you plan on shooting that gun much you'll need to try and find an armorers kit for it and you will need it. The .44 ammo and primers sound like a decent deal but the rest. I'm not seeing it.
So at any rate as I said I hope you enjoy your purchase and if you are satisfied that you got a good deal then that's all that matters.

FYI, listed a little ammo on GB as I do not need 3k rounds.  Currently at $.50/rd, so I think I faired well.  If that pans out i'd be at $1,500 alone on the ammo..  Just saying, but COVID prices are real and I did research before the purchase on this.

Controlavirus prices ARE real for those who failed to stock up on ammo when everything was cheap. Fortunately I don't have to weather this storm by paying those prices. I fail to understand WHY you would want that gun yet sell off the ammo???  If you plan on shooting it the smart thing to do would be keep the ammo. That stuff just isn't available everywhere today and at some point you may well have to pay much more to replace it than you're selling it for.
I would consider 3K rounds not enough.

How many rounds are really needed?  Sold 400 rounds for $220, sold 5k primers for $450, and currently selling another 800 rounds which i'll get north of $400.  I'd say I faired well for 220 rounds of 44 mag, CZ52 in awesome shape with pig skin holster and 2 mags, and keeping the 1800 rounds.  So basically paid $30 for the CZ, 44 mag, and 1800 rounds of 7.62 Tokarev.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

OK so you're happy and that's all that matters.  As to how many rounds are needed that's your decision. I keep ammo in quantities large enough for each caliber I own so that I can still go shoot on a regular basis and I'm not in any way impacted by the current situation and I won't be for several years.
I shot 20,000 rounds of 9mm last year and I can do that for a few more years with enough components to replenish the stock. So that's how much ammo I need.

[elhefe86]

OK so you're happy and that's all that matters.  As to how many rounds are needed that's your decision. I keep ammo in quantities large enough for each caliber I own so that I can still go shoot on a regular basis and I'm not in any way impacted by the current situation and I won't be for several years.
I shot 20,000 rounds of 9mm last year and I can do that for a few more years with enough components to replenish the stock. So that's how much ammo I need.

Wow, that is impressive.  I've never shot 20k total in my life between all calibers, including shotgun.  I definitely need to get out more and shoot.

[QCA CZ Fan]

Nice catch.  Reminds me that I have to take my 52 to the range one of these days.