Steel ammo

[Dan_69GTX]

I'm not aware of any warranty issues.

I've found the steel cased ammo:
   - Wasn't near as accurate as the factory loaded brass case ammo. (I'm very picky!)
   - Dirtier
   - ejects differently - not thrown in the same place - especially noticed this on the AR. (5.56)

However, it is MUCH easier to pick up and clean up after yourself with a bar magnet on a pole - kinda like picking up shotgun shell hulls.

Let us know what you experience!

[bonj]

...and in contrast, my 75B, would not shoot steel ammo at all.

I like to hear the details of that too.

Note that scratching is possible with most grades and hardness of steel, however that is not what is concerning, it is the metal to metal contact over time and the extra force needed to pull the steel casing from the walls of the chamber as it does not contract after firing as brass does.
Randal Stroud
CZ Technical Support/Gunsmith Rifle Lead

[I have redacted his phone number for privacy concerns]

[Wobbly]

CZ does not recommend Steel ammo, as it does not expand like brass.

Isn’t it a good thing,easier to extract ?

No. Less sealing is more pressure released in the direction of the shooter.

[Wobbly]

Was this was just one box of one brand ?
Sounds like you got a hold of an under-powered batch.

Wolf, steel ammo.

Frankly, it shot VERY WELL, in my Glock and Canik, so under powered was not an issue, if you ever shot a Canik.

Are the 3 guns you're comparing sprung the exact same and lubricated the exact same.  It is really hard to compare different brands of guns to each other based on ammo alone.

[buddyd157]

Are the 3 guns you're comparing sprung the exact same and lubricated the exact same.  It is really hard to compare different brands of guns to each other based on ammo alone.

all my guns are cleaned and lubricated with the same oil, Weapon Shield..

what do you mean by "sprung"?

they all have what ever springs that are needed.

look, i ain't gonna debate this, i said what has happened with steel cased ammo in MY CZ.....

i either  read it in the owners manual or online, i cannot recall, about NOT shooting steel ammo.

[Grendel]

Well it's not in the manual, nor on the CZ website, so...

[Wobbly]

look, i ain't gonna debate this, i said what has happened with steel cased ammo in MY CZ.....

Friend, no one is "debating" or doubting your words.

what do you mean by "sprung"?

they all have what ever springs that are needed.

I was merely trying to point out that the slide reacts to the power of the ammo. That the rearward movement of the slide is constrained by certain resisting forces, mainly the slide return springs and friction.

If the lubrication is the same, then the power of the combined springs must be greater in the CZ than the other 2 handguns. So in simple terms, if the Canik is sprung to 18 lbs and the CZ is sprung to 19 lbs, then of course the CZ will tend to have extraction and ejection issues sooner.

All that to say it is not the ammo (brass, steel or otherwise), it is merely the setup of the individual guns. Which agrees with your statement....

Wolf, steel ammo. Frankly, it shot VERY WELL, in my Glock, Canik, so under powered was not an issue, if you ever shot a Canik.

All the best.

[sevt_chevelle]

Ive never shoot steel cased pistol ammo and not about to start.  Ran some through a couple of ARs, it was not the most accurate stuff, seemed to produce more smoke and was somewhat underpowered.
However, I did build a 7.62x39 AR for the sole purpose of shooting cheap Russie steel ammo.  Other projects have kept me from putting a ton of rounds through it, am at round 500-600, but its been 100% reliable and routinely shoots 1.5 sometimes less than 1.0.