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Offline newageroman

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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2021, 09:13:51 AM »
I have the special dies to reload them - they've been collecting dust for the past couple months due to the vid...

So looks like I'll be doing ladder loads with pistol rounds LOL! I normally do my rifle ladder loads with 2 rounds of each powder level starting slow over the chrono and working up looking for pressure. pistol laders loads are usually groups of 5 or 10, but that's out in this case.

I'm wondering if I will pierce primers using CCI I don't have any hard primers.

Or I could just get them all ready for powder and drop/seat them it at the range. hmmmm things for a realoader to ponder...
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2021, 01:40:50 PM »
Well well well - Another Zombie Thread revival here.
So I was at the range Sat and was policing my brass and found about 25 NAAS3 cases. I hot washed them. What should I load them with first?
I have
Bullets:
124 PDs
124 RMR HPS
147 Horn XTPs (only ~ 50)

Powders:
SWMP
CFE pistol

I AM leaning to loading these on the fast side, for the racegun. The one that still needs the comp put back on and secured properly...

I have used both powders and 124 Gr PD JHP loading up to 171-173 PF for my Czechmate. I have also used CCI and Winchester (rifle and pistol) primers without running into flattened or pierced primers.

I like the SWMP more than the CFE pistol. The SWMP (same as AA7) is slower than CFE pistol and produces more gas for the compensator.

How fast are you going to load into? My average velocity is 1380 FPS.

Good luck.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2021, 10:28:43 AM »
I'm wondering if I will pierce primers using CCI? I don't have any hard primers.


How fast are you going to load into? My average velocity is 1380 FPS.


CCI SPP is a fairly stout primer as far as thickness. You can always try SMP, and then if that fails... SRP.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2021, 04:00:57 PM »
I'll most likely just load to major, working up slowly of course. But I've seen some SD ammo using these cases that is even higher PF than major! I'll leave that to them for now. I'm more interested in just keeping my processed brasses (they are magnetic). With all the glock bulges and stepped cases, I can just magnet them up and not have to worry about hand inspection any more.
I've gotten to the point now that I will look around and pick a lane that doesn't have any 9 or 45 on the ground that way I know all brasses are my cultured pieces.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2021, 05:46:50 PM »
But I've seen some SD ammo using these cases that is even higher PF than major!


I'm forever wondering why people think that SD loads need to kill the perp AND the cow behind the perp.

Even the FBI has limits.   ???
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2021, 11:32:52 PM »
But I've seen some SD ammo using these cases that is even higher PF than major!


I'm forever wondering why people think that SD loads need to kill the perp AND the cow behind the perp.

Even the FBI has limits.   ???

Hype and marketing = huge profits  O0

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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2021, 10:42:18 AM »
"I carry a 45 cause they don't make a 46..." mentality...
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2021, 10:53:19 AM »
"I carry a 45 cause they don't make a 46..." mentality...

But they make a .50  O0

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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2021, 10:00:27 AM »
Well, Procrastination pays off sometimes...
I had just received some 124 Berrys RN and hadn't loaded them yet. Then Friday these NAS3 cases showed up so I loaded up 200 rounds.
tumbled them with walnut media first to dry lube them. Put them on the D650 with Fed primers and HP-38. Initial load was pretty easy, primer pockets were nice and uniform.
I made some shorter rounds for the BullShadow and some longer rounds to represent the higher pressure major loads that I will eventually get back to.

Hopefully will test sometime this week.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2021, 08:39:09 AM »
So the shorter rounds COAL:1.148" shot GREAT in the Bullshadow. No feed issues.
The longer rounds did plunk, but I had issues with stacking them in the mag. I was able to run 1 mag with 8 rounds and the other only 1. I think knocking the COAL down a tad should solve this issue.

I loaded up another 300 rounds of the shorter COAL.

Also I noticed using the NAS3 cases that dusting them with walnut media for only about 5 mins made a noticeable difference in stiking to the powder measure. when I round out of the dusted cases I ran a few brand new and you could hear the squeaking of the powder measure as it comes off the case.

I'll be making more of these rounds but I'm running low on primers.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2021, 05:16:05 PM »
What was the longer OAL that you had issues with stacking them in the mag?

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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2021, 09:47:42 AM »
yes, I was seeing how long I could load them, which equates to how much powder can be loaded under them.
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Re: NAS3 cases and reloading warm rounds in 9mm.
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2021, 10:59:38 AM »
Quick update, the NAS3 cases worked well yesterday again with the bullshadow. Shot 3 mags and all great, no issues. that gun is a natural pointer.
Best part I remembered the Brass magnet. Just a cheap pack of magnets I bought from lowes and left in the pack. just stapled the plastic pack to the end of a stick and bam brass magnet.
worked grave. It was a bit difficult to spot some cases in the gravel and I do need a better magnet, but yep it works.

Now more waiting on primers...
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