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Offline Evo

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CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« on: March 26, 2021, 02:17:00 PM »
I'm buying for colloection purposes and for range use, so you can frame the your response with competition use NOT being a consideration. Let's pretend we live in a world were the Shadow is banned from use in all competitions....

What is the prefered option and why? What are the mancanical differences AND pros and cons of each? How easy is it to convert one to the other and vise versa?

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2021, 05:33:30 PM »
Conversion back and forth is not that hard, but not simple either.  Frankly the DA is so smooth I would not bother with the SAO.  This makes it a better range pistol as you can practice both DA and SA shots.  SAO that would not be possible.  Both will be so accurate that it would be a tie.  Having fired both SAO and SA/DA I could not tell any difference in the SA trigger pull.  Trigger shape will be different. SAO that I shot had a flat trigger, SA/DA has a curved trigger.  Flat trigger is nice as you can get more leverage by engaging it lower, but the curved trigger gives a more consistent trigger finger placement.

Last is another role for the pistol and that is home defense.  Would not use a SAO in this role as the SA trigger is too light.  Having the extra pull distance and weight makes the SA/DA much better in this role.

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2021, 05:40:22 PM »
   Converting a Double Action/Single Action CZ 75 variant to Single Action Only requires that you remove the disconector and install an SOA style flat Trigger in place of the DA/SA Trigger.

Converting from SAO to DA/SA, you install a DA/SA Trigger and disconector. The installed Hammer requires a disconector hole. Some Hammers that ship with SAO pistols do not have this hole.

   Other than personal preference, SAO and DA/SA configuration alone do very little. SAO configuration removes the DA function and allows you to easily adjust out the SA pretravle by adjusting the forward/upper set scerw in the Trigger. A DA/SA configuration gives you DA function. Additional tuning options are more significant than the configuration and you will see many of the same benefits from them in either configuration.
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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2021, 05:53:59 PM »
I'd opt for an Shadow 2 Orange variant if I was collecting.  Or maybe one of the first shadow 2 variants that had the different finish (wasn't a blue finish but something like that, I don't remember what they called it?).  Or hold out for the next anniversary edition that comes out.  Or go with a Tactical Sport Orange and make your friends look like novices at the range!  When I go out with my buddy he won't put my TSO down it makes him look good!


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The mechanical differences between the SAO and DA/SA are subtle.  You can convert a DA/SA to SAO by removing the disconnector and installing a SAO trigger.  It boils down to if you want a dual action trigger or not?  Are you a 1911 guy and prefer single action only?  I'm not sure how easy it is to convert a SAO variant into a DA/SA?  I don't know if the hammer has the holes for the disconnector or not?  You may have to purchase a new hammer, disconnector, and trigger to convert a SAO to DA/SA?

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2021, 08:07:45 PM »
I'd opt for an Shadow 2 Orange variant if I was collecting.  Or maybe one of the first shadow 2 variants that had the different finish (wasn't a blue finish but something like that, I don't remember what they called it?).  Or hold out for the next anniversary edition that comes out.  Or go with a Tactical Sport Orange and make your friends look like novices at the range!  When I go out with my buddy he won't put my TSO down it makes him look good!


Tok beat me to it!!

The mechanical differences between the SAO and DA/SA are subtle.  You can convert a DA/SA to SAO by removing the disconnector and installing a SAO trigger.  It boils down to if you want a dual action trigger or not?  Are you a 1911 guy and prefer single action only?  I'm not sure how easy it is to convert a SAO variant into a DA/SA?  I don't know if the hammer has the holes for the disconnector or not?  You may have to purchase a new hammer, disconnector, and trigger to convert a SAO to DA/SA?

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I can't bring myself to pay $800 +/- more for the for the OJ, else I'd brought it. Only seen the Shadow 2 blue in DASA and SAO on sales. Are the versions I'm choosing between not all that desirable?

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2021, 11:58:28 PM »
The models you are choosing are just what is available at the moment, absolutely nothing wrong with any of them.  I don't think any of them are particularly collectable is my point.  They are competition guns and you are buying them to collect, I was just pointing out there are some that may be more desirable down the road.

But beauty is the eye of the beholder, do what makes you happy.

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2021, 07:30:59 AM »
To me the S2 should be DA/SA. I know you said comp isn’t a consideration but that was what the S2 was created for. Those are the design specs it pushed to the limit.   

If I wanted a SAO, then I’d get the TSO or maybe the new TS2.

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Re: CZ Shadow Blue DA/SA vs SAO?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2021, 01:28:09 PM »
The models you are choosing are just what is available at the moment, absolutely nothing wrong with any of them.  I don't think any of them are particularly collectable is my point.  They are competition guns and you are buying them to collect, I was just pointing out there are some that may be more desirable down the road.

But beauty is the eye of the beholder, do what makes you happy.

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Okay thanks.. I just didn't know what the market or personal views are when it comes to CZ's $1000+ pistols which is why I asked.
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