P-10S over P-10F at long distances

[Joe L]

I've spent some time this week shooting my P-10F and P-10S pistols at 100 and 200 yards from a rest.  Both perform just fine.  One would think the larger gun is "better" for this than the small one.  My experience says barrel length is not a significant factor IF the pistols are fitted with a red dot sight.  The most accurate 30 rounds I've ever shot at 100 yards were with the P-10S.  And, as of today, I think the results at 200 yards about equal on average what I've done with the P-10F and P-09.  Here is a 3 minute video of the results today with the P-10S. 

https://youtu.be/fpcpLGJa-Uw

I shot a P-09 pistol at 200 yards for the first time over 7 years ago, and I am still amazed that getting good results is possible with any pistol, much less a subcompact production striker pistol. 

This is fun.  This is not easy.

Joe

[Greenbean]

Thank you for putting that video together.

Very impressive man!

Looks like you had a great day out there!

I imagine at 200 yards even a 2-MOA dot covers your whole target doesn't it?

[Joe L]

A 2 moa dot at 200 yards is theoretically around 4" in diameter, but, in practice, it appears larger than that.  I need some edges to show around the dot on the aim point, so I tend to use a black circle around 8" in diameter and then box that in with a light colored square to isolate the dot from the background.  That makes it easier to see the red dot and to see whether the dot is actually in the center of the black circle.  But, even your pulse will move the dot so some sense of timing is needed, but one has to be careful not to force the shot.  So I accept a little wobble and try to release the shot without moving the gun, even  when the dot isn't perfectly centered.  I will throw the shot off a foot or two if I force it or time it.  That's a lot more error than letting the dot wobble a little but executing a perfect trigger release.
Joe

[armoredman]

I've said before, the S shoots like it's a MUCH bigger pistol! Thank you for sharing, sir.

[TXshooter3]

Wow.  Nice shooting!

[M1A4ME]

One of my room mates in the Army had a saying about cars that applies to lots of mechanical tools/devices.

"Sometimes you get one that had all the nuts and bolts tightened just right."

That meant some engines ran better, stood up to hot rodding better and the car just performed better than it was built to run."

Same thing with guns.  Some are just more reliable and more accurate than the same/similar model pistol built at the same place.

Joe, looks like you got a good one.  Then you worked with it to figure out the best way to make if perform.  Good feeling, huh.