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Offline TXshooter3

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RAMI - FTF last round
« on: May 17, 2021, 03:39:49 PM »
I shot my RAMI at the range today and it fed fine with the 10 round mag until the last round.  The last round kept failing to feed all the way into the barrel.  I was shooting Blazer Brass FMJ.  Why would only the last round cause a jam?  TIA

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 05:43:09 PM »
I'd suspect a magazine problem. Take the magazine apart and be sure the follower moves freely in the tube. Be sure the spring is inserted properly and seated... Does it happen with other magazines?

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 06:33:10 PM »
I forgot to bring my extended mag to try.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 06:40:49 PM »
You might polish the feed ramp with the felt bullet shaped tip of a Dremel tool. The Rami feed ramp is a little bit steeper than the usual CZ75. Other than that, maybe a weak mag spring.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 08:55:27 AM »
Hello, I don't want to hi-jack this thread, but I figured because I am experiencing something similar with my RAMI (de-cocker) I would post.  I went to the range for the first time with it and I experienced a couple of FTF events.  It happened with two different types of rounds.  One had a round nose, and the other was a flat nosed target round. We reinserted the rounds after the FTF and they worked fine.  So, I have reason to believe there is a problem with the magazine.  I've read some posts here and was curious. Which Wolff springs do you recommend use to replace the stock ones?  Also, are the Men Gar magazines better than the CZ mags?  Which would be the better option?

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 08:01:07 PM »
Mark your magazines and determine if the failures happen with one or both and go from there. FYI the CZ mags ARE Mec-Gar mags. They make CZ's factory mags.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 08:15:59 PM »
Mark your magazines and determine if the failures happen with one or both and go from there. FYI the CZ mags ARE Mec-Gar mags. They make CZ's factory mags.

Hello and thank you.  That’s good knowledge.   I honestly didn’t pay attention.  I was still really happy with the way the RAMI performed. 

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2021, 08:49:50 PM »
Mark your magazines and determine if the failures happen with one or both and go from there. FYI the CZ mags ARE Mec-Gar mags. They make CZ's factory mags.

Hello and thank you.  That’s good knowledge.   I honestly didn’t pay attention.  I was still really happy with the way the RAMI performed.


Mec Gar also makes an upgraded “anti-friction” magazine for CZ75 pistols (blue follower) that has an additional feed lip on the front that I believe aids in tilting the bullet nose up so that it feeds easier onto the feed ramp. They also carry one more round than the standard magazines, 15, 17 and 19.

Also, you can get +5% and +10% stiffer mag springs from CZ Custom for standard CZ75 mags.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2021, 04:34:40 AM »
Mark your magazines and determine if the failures happen with one or both and go from there. FYI the CZ mags ARE Mec-Gar mags. They make CZ's factory mags.

Hello and thank you.  That’s good knowledge.   I honestly didn’t pay attention.  I was still really happy with the way the RAMI performed.


Mec Gar also makes an upgraded “anti-friction” magazine for CZ75 pistols (blue follower) that has an additional feed lip on the front that I believe aids in tilting the bullet nose up so that it feeds easier onto the feed ramp. They also carry one more round than the standard magazines, 15, 17 and 19.

Also, you can get +5% and +10% stiffer mag springs from CZ Custom for standard CZ75 mags.
CZ is shipping new guns with those as my recently purchased 75B compact and PCR came with them. I also purchased several of the new model mags for my compacts. Greg Cote llc has/had them in stock.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2021, 08:45:57 AM »
Mark your magazines and determine if the failures happen with one or both and go from there. FYI the CZ mags ARE Mec-Gar mags. They make CZ's factory mags.

Hello and thank you.  That’s good knowledge.   I honestly didn’t pay attention.  I was still really happy with the way the RAMI performed.

Hello, I checked the two magazines that came with my RAMI.  Both have the black follower.  Do you know if Mec Gar sells the "blue followers?"


Mec Gar also makes an upgraded “anti-friction” magazine for CZ75 pistols (blue follower) that has an additional feed lip on the front that I believe aids in tilting the bullet nose up so that it feeds easier onto the feed ramp. They also carry one more round than the standard magazines, 15, 17 and 19.

Also, you can get +5% and +10% stiffer mag springs from CZ Custom for standard CZ75 mags.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 11:45:40 AM »
Was this the same ammo that you had issues with on the target II?  Once again, I'd check it by doing the plunk test.  Having two pistols have issues is suspect.

Did you degrease and clean the gun before heading out?  How about the magazines?

I'd also check your extractor and breachface for any gunk/burrs.  Keep this clean and dry.  You should be able to slide a round up under the extractor and it should feel smooth.  Same goes for the target II.

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2021, 12:23:52 PM »
Was this the same ammo that you had issues with on the target II?  Once again, I'd check it by doing the plunk test.  Having two pistols have issues is suspect.

Did you degrease and clean the gun before heading out?  How about the magazines?

I'd also check your extractor and breachface for any gunk/burrs.  Keep this clean and dry.  You should be able to slide a round up under the extractor and it should feel smooth.  Same goes for the target II.

Cheers,
Toby

Hello, yes it was. I did oil the T2 just prior to going. I had oiled the RAMI when I received it and stored it until I went to shoot.  I took the RAMI apart and cleaned the slides, re-coil spring etc. and re-oiled everything.   I need to find the Plunk Test that you recommended.  To see if that’s a factor. 

Thank you for your help. 

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2021, 04:47:32 PM »
Plunk Test:

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/reloading-tips-the-plunk-test/99389

It's not just for reloaders!  You can do this test with any ammunition and any gun barrel but is recommended especially for 9mm CZ's as they tend to have a short chamber/leade.  Reloaders just have the ability to tailor the ammunition to their barrel.  When purchasing ammo you are stuck with what you get, so take your stripped barrel with you to plunk test it before you buy.

Use your thumb to verify the cartridge rotates when chambered.  This is key to ensuring flawless feeding.

Cheers,
Toby
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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2021, 04:51:01 PM »
Hello, I watched the Plunk video and I did not have the issue of my ammunition rounds fully engaging the barrel, or the gun going into battery.  I believe my problems may be more relative to the guns being, and require some “break in time.”
After around 500 rounds or so I’ll see how the operation is doing. 

Thank you all again!

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Re: RAMI - FTF last round
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2021, 04:55:20 PM »
Plunk Test:

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/reloading-tips-the-plunk-test/99389

Cheers,
Toby

Hello Toby!  Thank you!  I just watched a video on DuckDuckGo. The rounds weren’t even making the feed ramp. I didn’t have any  issues where the round engaged and the slide did not go all of the way forward.  I’m glad that was not the case.  Once I get the chance to go again I’ll provide an update.