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Offline Joe L

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I broke my own rules and failed to clean these three pistols before driving back to the Hill Country last weekend.  Granddaughter visit took precedence, all firearms locked up for four days.  I shot the CGW 97B"E" last, but got in three great range sessions in the Mountains of New Mexico.  They each had only 50-100 rounds through them and it didn't take much to clean them up.  The barrels were already soaking in the pickle jar with the Hoppe's #9 when I took this photo.



I only shot these at 100 yards, and, this trip, I just re-zeroed the red dots for 100 yards, 60F, 6000 feet altitude, no wind, IMI 115 JHP in the P-10F, AA 115 JHP in the P-10S, and AA 185 JHP in the 97B"E".  The best group for the week was from the 97B"E" at 3-3/8" for five shots at 100 yards from a wrist rest.  The three pistols are pretty much perfect mechanically, I shot the best group on the last range visit when I was relaxed, confident, and had accumulated some similar good results and, more importantly, trigger time with the polymer guns.  If I had shot the P-10S last, I think the best group would have been with it.  Or the P-10F.  I don't have a CZ that I haven't shot under 4" with at least once. 

I do pay a lot more attention to the breech face and barrel surfaces at the chamber end to make sure there isn't any powder residue left that would affect the barrel lock up and cause the zero to shift.  I've had an occasion or two where grunge resulted in some vertical stringing at 100 yards, due to the barrel not going to exactly the same position in the slide from shot to shot.  I'll check these surfaces every 50 rounds or so now.

Next, I will put a masking tape label on the slides to remind me that these guns are zeroed at 100 in thin air.  They will shoot a little high at 25 and 50 yards!

The Holosun click adjustments on the sights are not as fine as the Burris.  I can't get the 100 yard zero perfect on the Holosun sights as the zero shifts nearly 2" or 2 moa per click at 100 yards where as the Burris is closer to 1" or 1 moa.  In some ways, using a 25 yard zero and a hold point target roughly 8" higher than the intended target works better because you can shift the aim point to compensate for wind or density altitude or ammo changes and you never have to touch the zero adjustments.   But it was kind of fun to shoot at one target.  It was also fun to aim directly at the center of a hanging steel 12"x24" plate at 100 and know that I was going to hit it shot after shot without guessing at the holdover.     

Joe
CZ-75B 9mm and Kadet, 97B"E", two P-09's, P-07, P-10C, P-10F, P-10S, MTR

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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2021, 09:43:16 AM »
I will have to use a hold point at 200 yards, however, just a little lower than before.  I don't really want to re-zero at 200 and I don't think there is enough adjustment in the tiny red dot sights anyway.  And the only place I shoot at 200 yards is in the mountains of New Mexico anyway. 
Joe
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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2021, 09:08:23 AM »
Four whole days.

Did you bore scope'em??  O0

It's pretty dry out there isn't it?  Less chance for corrosion with less moisture in the air.  It's gotta come from somewhere.
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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2021, 11:00:08 AM »
Very dry in New Mexico, but very humid here, so I kept them warm in the safe until I could get to them.  Amazing how effective a 6 hour soak in the Hoppe's #9 in the pickle jar is.  A few patches after the soak and they are clean.  I don't dare borescope them for fear I'll want to clean them even more.  I'll wait until I'm ready for a "deep" clean anyway. 
I've taken this week off.  I'll return to the range next week. 
Joe
CZ-75B 9mm and Kadet, 97B"E", two P-09's, P-07, P-10C, P-10F, P-10S, MTR

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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 12:10:47 PM »
Very dry in New Mexico, but very humid here, so I kept them warm in the safe until I could get to them.  Amazing how effective a 6 hour soak in the Hoppe's #9 in the pickle jar is.  A few patches after the soak and they are clean.  I don't dare borescope them for fear I'll want to clean them even more.  I'll wait until I'm ready for a "deep" clean anyway. 
I've taken this week off.  I'll return to the range next week. 
Joe
Good idea...soaking in pickle jar. Never heard that before. Thanks for sharing

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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2021, 01:01:38 PM »
I fold up a paper towel several times and put it in the bottom to cushion the impact when I drop a barrel in the jar, and I use a magnet to fish the barrel out after it has soaked for several hours.  I also wipe the grease off and run one dry patch down the barrel before dunking the barrel in to the pickle jar, just to extend the life of the solvent. 

My biggest fear is knocking over an open pickle jar full of Hoppe's #9 solvent!  So far, I've been lucky. 

Joe
CZ-75B 9mm and Kadet, 97B"E", two P-09's, P-07, P-10C, P-10F, P-10S, MTR

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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2021, 01:02:43 PM »
I fold up a paper towel several times and put it in the bottom to cushion the impact when I drop a barrel in the jar, and I use a magnet to fish the barrel out after it has soaked for several hours.  I also wipe the grease off and run one dry patch down the barrel before dunking the barrel in to the pickle jar, just to extend the life of the solvent. 

My biggest fear is knocking over an open pickle jar full of Hoppe's #9 solvent!  So far, I've been lucky. 

Joe
Thanks! Appreciate the info

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Re: A week late, but I've cleaned them and put them back in a warm safe
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2021, 11:26:13 PM »
I do something very similar, but I use a smaller jar, one from Walmart that came with 3.5 oz of capers in it.  It's pretty close to a perfect fit for my P-07 barrel.  I have a slightly larger jar that was for horseradish that I sometimes use to soak two barrels at once.  Using the smallest jar to achieve full submersion means I dump a minimal amount of Hoppes when the solvent starts looking dirty.

I put the barrels in and take them out using my index finger with a nitrile glove, and a polymer cleaning rod that came with one of my CZ's.

Sometimes I leave them in there overnight, but ideally every 4-6 hours I pull them out and run some patches through with that cleaning rod, then re-dunk them as needed.  Pretty amazing the stuff that comes out with minimal scrubbing.