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Offline Joe L

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2021, 05:49:06 AM »
Thanks for the report Litomysl94.  Hope range day goes well. 

At first, I wasn't that interested in the M.  But, if ArmoredMan has one coming and will actually get his camera out, and we see a few positive range reports, maybe I'll have to try one myself.  Not that I would try shooting it at 100 yards or anything.     :)  Closest I've had were Kahr PM-9 and PM-40, which were wonderful little guns, just not suited to my big hands. 

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2021, 06:53:01 AM »
The camera is with a buddy right now, (long story, sad ending), but I should have it back in a week or two, and oh yes, we will have range video! I am hearing from people who have shot it and are happy. The trigger is harder, from what I hear, so that will ne interesting to get used to.
Joe, you KNOW you want to try an M at 100 yards...you know it... 8) And, you are the only guy I know who could actually HIT something with it at that range! ;)

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2021, 02:38:43 PM »
I was able to make a short trip to the range today.  My impressions of the P-10M:

1) Trigger is different from the P-10C and S, but honestly, not in any major way.  My triggers are all originals from the factory.  I didn't find the P-10M trigger to be a problem.

2) Holding the P-10M is exactly what you'd expect from a micro pistol.  It is definitely different from gripping the C or the S.  Something to get used to.

3) Lack of external slide release.  This will take more getting used to.  I'm really used to having one, and so not having one was a change.  Again, given the purpose of a pistol this small, it is probably only a "range" issue, not an issue in real life should I ever need to use the pistol for self-defense.

4) Accuracy.  At 5 and 7 yards, I found it to be somewhat less accurate than its bigger brothers.  That may be only an issue caused by the fact that it is smaller and the shooter (me) needs to practice more with it.  Having said that, all shots at both distances were on the target.  My shots were consistently to the left of aim, so I need to adjust the sights.

5) Two failures to feed.  I ran Sellier & Bellot hollow points through the M with no issues.  S&B round nose had no issues.  Fiocchi gave me two hiccups.  One was a failure to feed while holding with both hands, the other was a failure to feed when shooting one-handed.  The second case I will chalk up to how I was gripping the pistol.  The Fiocchi was noticeable in that it was producing a lot of flame out the barrel.  I didn't notice that with S&B.  All in all, I ran about 150 rounds through the pistol, and the only 2 issues were both from the Fiocchi I had.

Overall, I am very pleased with the pistol.  You give up some on capacity, but you gain some on concealability.  There are times when I need to conceal more deeply, and for that the M is better than the S (for me at any rate).

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2021, 03:04:43 PM »
Thanks for that great range report.  Well done, seems like an excellent little pistol.  Hope you continue to enjoy it. 
Joe
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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2021, 04:38:00 PM »
Nice report. Sounds about what most shooters would say, I think. The lack of a slide release lever will vary on how accustomed one is to sling shooting a slide instead of relying on pressing down on a lever. Does your have a loudly clicking trigger reset like that I encountered with another sample?


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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2021, 06:47:21 PM »
Psyop96, I didn't notice a loud click on the reset, but then again, there were five other people shooting in the surrounding bays.  :-)

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2021, 07:31:54 PM »
Nice writeup, thank you!

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2021, 08:31:52 AM »
Well I will give CZ credit for having guns in the pipeline too sell before they rolled out the M model. The rollout of the P10-C was a mess and took months longer than promised coupled with issues with the early C models.
Hopefully they've got their footing now manufacturing the plastic line and the M will hit the ground running strong.

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2021, 08:52:20 AM »
I agree - I think the M has a strong future.  8)

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2021, 03:41:02 PM »

Found one local jumped on it, can’t wait to get to range. Feels great in hand. Just enough front to back in the grip and enough to get barely 3 fingers. Trigger dry firing is typical. I dont think these have firing pin blocks! All in all they did a nice job. I hope they bring others to market with different colors, optic versions, And wow I mean why not a +2 extension or 3! Maybe  they will do what do what S&W did and offer a “ plus” those that want 10 rounds. 



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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2021, 06:04:53 PM »
Polecat,

Congrats on finding one locally!

According to the CZ-USA website, the P-10M does have a firing pin block safety as well as trigger safety, but I'm clueless as to how that could be independently verified by the owner.  Not talking about the trigger safety, that is pretty easy to verify.

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2021, 08:24:48 AM »
Compare the guts to a standard P-10 and you can see they do look somewhat different. P-10S on the left, M on the right - they are not the same. This is a whole new approach to the P-10.



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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2021, 03:29:58 PM »
Thank you, Mr. A.  I didn't even think to line the two up against each other.  I'm not too familiar with all the minute inner workings of pistols, so I'll just take the CZ website's word for it that it is there. I'm assuming the versions sold in Europe and the United States are the same.  In any case, the two websites list the pistol as having a "Trigger safety, Trigger bar safety" (CZUB's website, English version) and "Firing Pin Block Safety, Trigger Safety" (CZ-USA's website).

Offline Joe L

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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2021, 06:19:45 PM »
The striker safety block is going to be in the slide assembly.  AM--can you take another photo with the slides upside down and side by side?  Even that may be different, however.
Joe 
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Re: p-10M on its way
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2021, 01:11:19 AM »
Out of town right now, have to wait until after the weekend. Sorry.