p-10M on its way

[rdcinhou]

A recent CZ Demo Day at Spring Guns & Ammo had a CZ P-10M  and it is now listed on CZ-USA's website.

I called them to ask if they had one in the demo and if it would be available for sale after the demo day closed.
The CZ representative would not part with it--most likely he needed it for another subsequent demo day.

Evidently they have already started or are planning on producing them here in the US.

I have been searching but haven't been able to find anyone who has any for sale.

Has anyone else heard anything?

[Litomysl94]

They are available in the US now.  There may not be any for sale right NOW, but in general they're available.  I've had mine for a couple of months.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

They were already here before the official rollout. A few lgs near me had some and they flew out the door like hotcakes.

[rdcinhou]

I picked up a P10M at a gun show today.

I have not taken it to the range yet.

First impressions:

1. The take-down instructions are printed the smallest that I've ever seen anywhere and you can't make out the graphic.

2. The new case design is a PAIN to get open as there is a tab that lands in a slot.  I first tried filing it down to not make it such a tight fit, but ended up just breaking the plastic tab slightly.  It now opens with the same amount of force as the older case designs.

3.  My P10M doesn't have the S/N on the barrel, so the only S/N is on an inset inside the frame.  I watched a field strip video online and that person's S/N was on the barrel under the 9x19 caliber indication.  There also isn't a date stamp anywhere that I could find. There were some number stamped inside the slide:  CZCA419 and H81/2 9230.  Could the "19" mean that it was made in 2019?

4. The take down pin is probably going to need some work to make it less troublesome.  Pressing it with the corner of a mag from the right hand side, it wouldn't come out with just finger pressure, until I got a pair of pliers and pulled it the remaining way out.  Getting it back in also required pressing down quite hard with the base of a mag.

5. It came with TWO (2) 7-round magazines with orange followers.

I'll post some pictures later and give a range report in a couple of days--this is a busy week for me.

Pictures posted on another thread:  https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=117519.msg914636#msg914636

[Psyop96]

 Made in USA guns don’t have the serial numbering and proofing requirements as those in Uhersky Brod. Also the export guns for markets outside the CIP signatory countries don’t require that type of proof certification. Enjoy that P-10M.


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[polecat]

Liked it so much I bought a second! Hopeful, as CS said give it a little bit, with question regarding 10 rounds +, mag extensions, and optic cut,, So, I am hopeful. This is my favorite of this genre of little CCW guns. You have to understand, as I was a huge naysayer in beginning. Trigger in dry fire is so so, but I think it is safe for CCW. I am still uncertain as to whether or not it has a firing pin block? I do not think it does!

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I am still uncertain as to whether or not it has a firing pin block? I do not think it does!

Striker fired guns are obviously of a different lock work in comparison to traditional hammer fired guns but you can be certain that gun is drop safe which is the main reason for a fpb block of any sort. I think you just need to study and understand the operation of the system.

[polecat]

I am still uncertain as to whether or not it has a firing pin block? I do not think it does!

Striker fired guns are obviously of a different lock work in comparison to traditional hammer fired guns but you can be certain that gun is drop safe which is the main reason for a fpb block of any sort. I think you just need to study and understand the operation of the system.

So can you explain the operating system and it’s drop safety? Thanks for your insight.

Dave

[rdcinhou]

So can you explain the operating system and it’s drop safety? Thanks for your insight.

Dave

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/why-you-want-a-modern-drop-safe-handgun/

[polecat]

So can you explain the operating system and it’s drop safety? Thanks for your insight.

Dave

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/why-you-want-a-modern-drop-safe-handgun/

No your missing the boat! I am well versed in the various safeties etc. I would specifically like to hear what kind of drop safety the P10 “M” has from VIS’s explanation.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

So can you explain the operating system and it’s drop safety? Thanks for your insight.

Dave

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/why-you-want-a-modern-drop-safe-handgun/

No your missing the boat! I am well versed in the various safeties etc. I would specifically like to hear what kind of drop safety the P10 “M” has from VIS’s explanation.

CZ has an explanation of the mechanism on their site. Jurek explained it on page 3 of this thread. The striker is pre-tensioned and doesn't fully cock until the trigger is fully depressed the way I understand it so the striker is held in place that way which is why the trigger pull is heavier on the M model. I'd say it's similar to da only system. CZ does also claim it to have a pin block safety so just because it doesn't appear traditional doesn't mean it's not there. If you are still unsure of it being drop safe then call CZ-USA and allow them to explain it to you. If I was inclined to own one I wouldn't be the least bit worried about it.

[rdcinhou]

I took the P-10M to the range today. 

First mag (7) ran through without issues.

Second mag is where I ran into difficulties.

The slide locked up and I had to dis-assemble by forcing the pin out so that I could remove the slide.
After removal of the slide and recoil spring I could not get it any further apart.

So...I engaged the gunsmiths at the range.

What happened is the round did not go fully into battery.

I went home and checked the whole box of ammo by the plunk and rotate test.

NINE (9) of FIFTY (50) did not pass. 
It appeared that the cases were bulged near the rim.
Some were 3-4 mm out of battery.

The brand...SUMMIT AMMUNITION, 124 Gr., JHP  SA-9-6-OF.

Turns out that it was REMANUFACTURED.

Checking online, it seems that SUMMIT has a really bad reputation for poor quality.

You won't get me buying any of this brand ever again.

I'm going to go back to the range, this time with MagTech whom I've never had any problems with.