AGOA Speed Loader?

[rdcinhou]

Anyone here using the AGOA speed loader?

Since my UpLula and ETS loaders can't handle the magazine dimensions or cartridge dimensions, respectively for my FK 7.5 Brno Field Pistol and PSD, I've ordered a pair.

They're taking their own sweet time to get here from China.

The problem with the UpLula is the magazine is longer front-to-back than it can handle.

The problem with ETS is that the cartridge base and rim  is just a little too small to stay in the capture piece without falling out.

The AGOA doesn't appear from the video to have these limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BEf89h7AYE

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[wanderson]

Never used one but when I load my PPS-43c (9mm) mags I use a loader for my Scorpion Evo mags, it’s big enough front to back to clear the spine on the back of the mags. It’s basically a 3D printed type of loader like the ones some factory guns come with, just a single piece of plastic with a tab to push the top round down. It never gets used for Evo mags once I got a Maglula.

Let us know, that looks interesting.

[rdcinhou]

Finally my TWO (2) AGOA (American Gun Owners Association) speed loaders and ONE (1) rubber mat arrived from China.

They both came in small plain brown cardboard boxes.
No labeling whatsoever in/on the boxes or on the loaders themselves.
That is, no model, brand name, "Made in xxx" or even a patent number on them.

They work for my 7.5 FK mags which is the main reason I purchased them

They also were not very expensive...total cost for TWO (2) plus ONE (1) mat was $50.45 including shipping.

They are well-built and substantial, not something that is likely to break with a lot of use.

The video makes it look a easier than it was for me...perhaps the springs in mine need to be worked to not be so stiff, but they do the job.

In comparing to an UpLula, I would much rather have an UpLula with the proper dimensions, since I have that repetitive motion for loading mags down pat. 

It will take some time to get used to this loader, but it does the job for my special mags.

Last thought...I should have bought TWO (2) of the rubber mats as they keep the base of the mag from slipping on a hard surface, but I imagine I can fabricate an extra one of my own out of similar material.

[rdcinhou]

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[rdcinhou]

I would not recommend putting your fingers inside to test the springs.

In the back of my mind I was wondering if this was a high-tech Chinese finger trap!



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[BBF97]

I finally got hold of a pair of these. Must say they are best handgun loaders I've used. Bought them for the FK BRNO. But now use for everything.

[rdcinhou]

I finally got hold of a pair of these. Must say they are best handgun loaders I've used. Bought them for the FK BRNO. But now use for everything.

I'm glad that someone has benefited from my "hunt" for a suitable loader that works with the FK BRNO pistols.
I still prefer the MagLula and BabyLula for my other guns and the ETS C.A.M. for the rifle mags.

I have corresponded with FKBRNOUS and they knew about the AGOA, but "didn't care for it" so they are contacting FKBRNO to see if they would make one for the 7.5 FK.

[MeatAxe]

Good to know there’s a functional speed loader for the FK BRNO!!

Now, if they would only make good on the folding arm brace they’ve been tantalizing us with for so long. In the absence of which, I’ve been toying with the idea of building my own aluminum chassis for the FK Brno, with a pistol brace, optics and accessory  attachments, similar to the CAA Roni, MCK and other such units. The 7.5 cartridge would make an awesome PDW!!!

[DenStinett]

Interesting
I can see both advantages and Disadvantages to the AGOA Loaders
Looks like there's no limit to the length it'll load, but some limit to the width of a Mag it'll take
From one of the YouTube Vids I watched, the AGOA Loader can't handle the Glock .45 Mags
So that leaves out their G20 / 29, 10mm Mags too
Given that .... it may not handle Large Frame Witness Mags or other Double Stack 10mm / .45 Mags either

Question is: How wide it their "Beak" ?
Can it load / fit between the Feedlips of a .380 Mag ?
Wonder how hard it will be to mod THEM to load .22, .25, .32 etc Mags ?

[rdcinhou]

Interesting
I can see both advantages and Disadvantages to the AGOA Loaders
Looks like there's no limit to the length it'll load, but some limit to the width of a Mag it'll take
From one of the YouTube Vids I watched, the AGOA Loader can't handle the Glock .45 Mags
So that leaves out their G20 / 29, 10mm Mags too
Given that .... it may not handle Large Frame Witness Mags or other Double Stack 10mm / .45 Mags either

Question is: How wide it their "Beak" ?
Can it load / fit between the Feedlips of a .380 Mag ?
Wonder how hard it will be to mod THEM to load .22, .25, .32 etc Mags ?

Responding to your query...

I tried the AGOA loader on my CZ 1911A1 (.45) and it works well.
"Beak" width is 0.30 inches.
It worked well on my CZ 83 (.380 double stack), but "tight" on my Sig P238 (.380 single stack) fitting but just barely.
It worked on my Beretta Tomcat (.32 single stack) not tight at all.
It did NOT work on my Ruger Mark IV (.22 single stack).

The widest that the side "jaws" open is 0.80 inches, so that would be the limit on any larger caliber double stack.
I don't have any to test with.

[DenStinett]

Thanks for the stats
Been modding the UpLULA's for year and was envisioning a ".22 and up" Mod for this one   

When MagLULA introduced their UpLULA, they "claimed" that the "Up" (for Universal Pistol) "LULA (Loader) would be one Loader fits all
Marketing against and making fun of HKS and their (you'd need) several different Loader to cover the multitude of Pistol Magazines out there
But both MagLULA and HKS missed a whole mess of Mags
.22, .25, .32, some .380 and manly all double stack Mags smaller than 9mm
Hence my Mod of the UpLULA to handle must any Mag, .22 - .45 Single or Double Stack
I know little to nothing about the 5.7, and from your Post, I take it that the Mag doesn't fit into the UpLULA .... too long, front to back

That AGOA has possibilities, but leaving-out the Large Cal (namely 10mm and .45), Double Stack Mags was a big MISS

[rdcinhou]

I know little to nothing about the 5.7, and from your Post, I take it that the Mag doesn't fit into the UpLULA .... too long, front to back

You are correct, the 7.5 FK mag is too long front-to-back to work in the UpLula.

As I had a spare UpLula, I took one of them and began using a rasp to "worry" the back of it try and get it to fit.
I eventually gave up on the mod as there is an internal spring-loaded "bridge" that would also have to be modified and I expected that it might break from the modification.

I began researching other loaders available and even corresponded (contact form through SquareSpace) with Makershot.com that purports to make custom loaders.

Matthew responded back to me on 9/28/2020 saying "I can add it to our list of future products. Thanks."