P10C failures

[welike45acp]

Took the new P10C OR to the range today for the first time to test functionality and see how and where it shoots before adding an optic. Shot only 100 rds which were a combination of all new 147 and 115 GR brass case.  Had three failure which I would classify as failure to eject, but have never seen this type before. The slide would cycle and instead of ejecting the shell it would stay on the extractor and go right back into battery and damage the next round that was tryin to load (see pics). Not sure if I should contact CZ or continue to shoot and maybe loosen the extractor a little if it is too tight?

[seebee62]

What brand of ammo is that?


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[welike45acp]

What brand of ammo is that?


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Combination of new Federal 115g and Freedom Munitions new 147g all brass case.


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[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

You need to check the EJECTOR and make sure it is not bent or broken. If cases are not ejecting it sounds like they are not coming in contact with the ejector when the slide cycles back. Either way I would contact CZ-USA and let them fix it under warranty.

[gwes351]

that I would send in asap to CZ

[monty_d_33]

So the casing that failed to eject caused that deformation to the bullet nose?  I’m sure you know what “good” ejectors and extractors look like but if not I can send you some pics


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[jhc37013]

I would try one more brand of ammo like American Eagle or Blazer Brass, if this happens again send it back I've never seen a bullet so deformed like that.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

I would try one more brand of ammo like American Eagle or Blazer Brass, if this happens again send it back I've never seen a bullet so deformed like that.

I have several times. The bullet is being slammed into the edge of the feed ramp because the spent casing is not being ejected and it holds the incoming cartridge in place in the mag instead of it popping up as it should.

[anach]

I also get that problem with weak handloaded ammo at short COL and a mainspring that is right on the edge of functioning. I'm surprised that federal 115gr is having issues as I would assume it's as hot as typical 115gr stuff.

Try some 124gr NATO spec (effectively +p) stuff just to see if it's a power factor thing. WWB NATO runs flawlessly for me when my 147gr mousefarts start having issues.

[Superiorduper]

The p10c is sprung pretty dang stiff from the factory, is there any chance the slide isn’t fully cycling enough to eject the casing? I remember when I first got mine I left it overnight with the slide locked open just to try and soften the spring up a hair because my casings didn’t have much fling to them. They were being ejected but maybe like 1’-2’ if that. I did buy softer springs from CGW but only tried them at the range because carry loads having always been able to cycle the gun with ease.

[jhc37013]

I know with Glock it's possible with the OR models that a rmr screw or cover plate screw is to long and interferes with the extractor plunger assembly causing ejection problems.

I'm not to familiar with the design of the optic ready P10C but this might be worth looking at.

[Togmaster]

As said above look at the ejector first. If there is nothing obviously wrong send it to CZ and let them sort it out.

[Wobbly]

Took the new P10C OR to the range today for the first time to test functionality and see how and where it shoots before adding an optic. Shot only 100 rds which were a combination of all new 147 and 115 GR brass case.  Had three failure which I would classify as failure to eject, but have never seen this type before. The slide would cycle and instead of ejecting the shell it would stay on the extractor and go right back into battery and damage the next round that was tryin to load (see pics). Not sure if I should contact CZ or continue to shoot and maybe loosen the extractor a little if it is too tight?

There are quite a few misunderstandings here...
• Lots of CZ's won't operate correctly until a short break-in period of ~500 rounds. Some do, some don't. Just because your last one DID is no indicator of what the next might do. As brokers are fond of saying "Past performance is no indicator of future results".
• As we have said for well over 15 years now, the 147gr bullet is an iffy situation in any CZ pistol. You'll need to do chamber drop tests to confirm. But even with that, it's not very good break-in ammo. (See: https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=114236.0)
• Just because the CZ meets SAAMI chamber specs and you are buying over-the-counter factory ammo is not an indicator the 2 work well together. Not all ammo sold over the counter will chamber correctly in a CZ.

There is so much information missing from this "report" that I'm inclined to think these are self-inflicted issues well before blaming the pistol.

[jhc37013]

With my new P10C I had nearly the exact same chambering issue when hand cycling the first round as seen in the OP bullet deformation and also first round jam into the lower part of feed ramp (while hand cycling). I went to the range put a couple hundred of mixed jhp and FMJ and zero issues. I'm pretty sure it was the mag spring or follower hanging up causing the round to tilt downward. Anyways I've since out 400 trouble free rounds through it.

In short if your P10 does this when new don't panic it might need a little loosening up.

[Wobbly]

When the ammo is correct and the P10c is broken-in, it's a fabulous handgun. Give it a chance. Stick with the 115gr Blazer Brass, WWB, Fiocchi or similar. You'll see.


I had an extra hour yesterday and took mine to the range. Emptied about 200 rounds (all 124gr) on steel, and this one rapid fire onto paper from 35 feet...



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