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Offline Roscoe2212

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SAR the poor person's 97?
« on: November 21, 2021, 06:25:32 PM »
Just found out SAR, the Turkish / American gunmaker , has a license from CZ to make what looks like
a 97B, but it holds 14 rounds.  Anybody have experience with that pistol, the K2-45? 8)

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 07:56:07 PM »
I had a compact model in stainless…. I’m not  sure you could call it a poor mans CZ 97b though. There are places online selling the 97b for $699 right now. The stainless K2 isn’t much less, some places more. The gun seemed ok, but there’s little in the way of aftermarket parts available. Grips, sights, etc.  But as a service pistol as is,  I’m sure it would be just fine.To me the grip felt a bit large, guess it has to be to hold 14+1 45 acp. Not as long front to back in the grip area as a 97b but seemed a bit wider. Kinda like a fatter Tanfoglio Witness large frame.

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 11:41:46 AM »
Just found out SAR, the Turkish / American gunmaker , has a license from CZ to make what looks like
a 97B, but it holds 14 rounds.  Anybody have experience with that pistol, the K2-45? 8)

 It's not that it's licensed, it has to do with the patent on the 75 series design. Or more accurately the lack of one. That's why you see so many clones of the 75 series. It's all related to the history of the Warsaw Pact.

 Having said that, the SAR guns have a pretty decent reputation. I'd get the CZ every time. I think they're better built, and they certainly have better customer service in the U.S.

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 04:15:41 PM »
I have a K2-45.   It runs great.    I'd shoot it more if I had a better use case.    For all of the things I like to do, a 9 mm is a better gun.
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Offline Gunnerdad80

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 09:00:16 PM »
I don’t know if I would call it the “poor” man’s CZ97 being that it’s typically in the $650-$700 range. Maybe “kinda sorta budget minded maybe slightly less expensive” man’s CZ97 would be more accurate.  ;D

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2021, 03:34:38 PM »
Actually, I would NOT call the SAR K2-45 a poor person's Cz97.  The SAR K2-45 design is considerably different.  I could call the Full Size Steel .45 Witness a poor person's Cz97, as they can use the same 10 round Magazines.  The SAR K2-45 on the other hand uses a 13 round Magazine patterned after the old ParaOrdnance Magazines, being tapered at the top.  The K2-45 Grip angle is also more like that of a 1911 and is significantly heavier.  SAR K2-45 Slide profile more resembles that of a Sig P220/227 Pistol.


EAA Witness .45 - 1992
EAA Witness .45 - 2005
SAR K2-45             2013

Of my SAR K2-45, I can say it's very accurate, but it's grip is significantly larger than that of the .45 EAA Witness or my 1911's.
It feeds FMJ Ball and most Hollowpoints well, but does not like Semi-Wadcutters, whereas the .45 Witnesses will feed everything .45.
In many respects, it is the Pistol that the now discontinued Sig P227 should have been. 
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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2021, 04:17:04 PM »
Actually, I would NOT call the SAR K2-45 a poor person's Cz97.  The SAR K2-45 design is considerably different.  I could call the Full Size Steel .45 Witness a poor person's Cz97, as they can use the same 10 round Magazines.  The SAR K2-45 on the other hand uses a 13 round Magazine patterned after the old ParaOrdnance Magazines, being tapered at the top.  The K2-45 Grip angle is also more like that of a 1911 and is significantly heavier.  SAR K2-45 Slide profile more resembles that of a Sig P220/227 Pistol.


EAA Witness .45 - 1992
EAA Witness .45 - 2005
SAR K2-45             2013

Of my SAR K2-45, I can say it's very accurate, but it's grip is significantly larger than that of the .45 EAA Witness or my 1911's.
It feeds FMJ Ball and most Hollowpoints well, but does not like Semi-Wadcutters, whereas the .45 Witnesses will feed everything .45.
In many respects, it is the Pistol that the now discontinued Sig P227 should have been.
I like that 1992 model jwc007

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2021, 01:31:20 PM »
I had one for a while then I sold it, then I bought another one, then I sold it. It was decent

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Re: SAR the poor person's 97?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2021, 02:39:21 PM »
I like that 1992 model jwc007

Thankyou!  I've put around 18,000 plus rounds through that one as it was my USPSA/IPSC Major Power Factor Pistol.
It has also served as my Home Defense Pistol and CCW for about three Winters, long ago.
With all of that use, it's needed a few Springs and a new Barrel, but still runs really well.
Slide to frame fit is still as tight as the day it was made.
Back in the early 2000's I converted it to fire .45 Super, for use when hiking in Black Bear Country,
then converted it back to run regular .45 ACP again.  Overall, it's been a great .45 ACP Pistol.
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