Why has CZ discontinued the P10 series guns?

[hurst01]

I don't own a CZ at present but was online at CZ-USA and they are apparently discontinuing the P10 series handguns this year, no explanation given.  I believe it listed the P10C, F, S and others.  Very discouraging!  Every time I get interested in something it gets either discontinued or is obsolete.

[Earl Keese]

Those were replaced with different model numbers, CZ is still making P-10's.

[Stuart]

They discontinued the current OR guns, except for the P10F Competition.
Don’t know what the plan is.

[Earl Keese]

They discontinued the current OR guns, except for the P10F Competition.
Don’t know what the plan is.

Here lately, one has to wonder. 

[Skookum]

The CZ-UB 2022 catalog shows a solid dedication to the P-10 platform.  In fact, they have a P-10 SC.

I was disturbed to see the 75 Compact and 75 D Compact PCR were omitted.  The only 75 SP-01 included was the Shadow.

[Earl Keese]

The CZ-UB 2022 catalog shows a solid dedication to the P-10 platform.  In fact, they have a P-10 SC.

I was disturbed to see the 75 Compact and 75 D Compact PCR were omitted.  The only 75 SP-01 included was the Shadow.

Yes, but as Stuart mentioned, all but one OR model is gone from the U.S. lineup. Odd choice considering the demend for optic ready pistols.

[Psyop96]

The CZ-UB 2022 catalog shows a solid dedication to the P-10 platform.  In fact, they have a P-10 SC.

I was disturbed to see the 75 Compact and 75 D Compact PCR were omitted.  The only 75 SP-01 included was the Shadow.

The “legacy” compacts (Compact, PCR, P-01) were also omitted in last year’s catalog and perhaps the prior year also but there have been quite a number of those pistols on the GB site all last year with 2021 manufacture dates. There might be a short-term reduction in availability of some models across the line up as the Czech government has just made a USD 45 million equivalent allowance to CZG to speed up the delivery of the Bren 2 and P-10 contracts to the armed forces due to the current situation.


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[Skookum]

The CZ-UB 2022 catalog shows a solid dedication to the P-10 platform.  In fact, they have a P-10 SC.

I was disturbed to see the 75 Compact and 75 D Compact PCR were omitted.  The only 75 SP-01 included was the Shadow.

Yes, but as Stuart mentioned, all but one OR model is gone from the U.S. lineup. Odd choice considering the demend for optic ready pistols.

I count seven optics-ready versions of the P-10 in the CZ-CZ catalog.  Thus, they are still cranking them out over there.  Does Stuart know why the range of offerings vary so widely between the CZ-CZ and CZ-US catalogs?

I'm puzzled by the P-10 M.  Who in the current "microcompact" 9 craze, where 10-round mag is the minimum capacity threshold, wants a gun having a 7-round mag and a 12-lb trigger?

[Stuart]

I would guess the differences between catalogs of CZ UB and CZ USA  is  USA is trying to come up with plan for some form of manufacturing.
Not sure what the status of the AR adventure is ,  or with acquisition of COLT, what does that mean for CZ manufacturing in the US.

if you looked at serial numbers some of the P10 line was done in US vs UB and imported. Same for some of the Scorpions

[armoredman]

The CZ-UB 2022 catalog shows a solid dedication to the P-10 platform.  In fact, they have a P-10 SC.

I was disturbed to see the 75 Compact and 75 D Compact PCR were omitted.  The only 75 SP-01 included was the Shadow.

Yes, but as Stuart mentioned, all but one OR model is gone from the U.S. lineup. Odd choice considering the demend for optic ready pistols.

I count seven optics-ready versions of the P-10 in the CZ-CZ catalog.  Thus, they are still cranking them out over there.  Does Stuart know why the range of offerings vary so widely between the CZ-CZ and CZ-US catalogs?

I'm puzzled by the P-10 M.  Who in the current "microcompact" 9 craze, where 10-round mag is the minimum capacity threshold, wants a gun having a 7-round mag and a 12-lb trigger?

Well, my research partner loves her P-10M, and she shoots it quite well. The trigger certainly doesn't feel like 12 pounds! I can hit quite well with it as well. As for the mag - yes, a bigger mag would be nice, and the only way to do that is with the +2 mag extension - I believe CZ Custom has some of those.
But, I can say she is quite happy with her M, and she is far more likely to carry it than an S, or C, due to ease of carry.
It won't replace my C or S, but it's a solid little pistol

[alp3367]

I don't own a CZ at present but was online at CZ-USA and they are apparently discontinuing the P10 series handguns this year, no explanation given.  I believe it listed the P10C, F, S and others.  Very discouraging!  Every time I get interested in something it gets either discontinued or is obsolete.

 It's just sku # changes. There are still both OR and non OR versions of the P-10 S/C/F on the CZ-USA website and the dealer price list.

[Skookum]

I would guess the differences between catalogs of CZ UB and CZ USA  is  USA is trying to come up with plan for some form of manufacturing.
Not sure what the status of the AR adventure is ,  or with acquisition of COLT, what does that mean for CZ manufacturing in the US.

if you looked at serial numbers some of the P10 line was done in US vs UB and imported. Same for some of the Scorpions

Where is CZ manufacturing P-10s in the US?  Some corner of the DW factory?  A CZ-US plant seems wise.  Hard to imagine they couldn't easily sell everything they'd make.  Adding on to an existing factory in antigun NY or CT doesn't, however, seem wise.

[Skookum]

Well, my research partner loves her P-10M, and she shoots it quite well. The trigger certainly doesn't feel like 12 pounds! I can hit quite well with it as well. As for the mag - yes, a bigger mag would be nice, and the only way to do that is with the +2 mag extension - I believe CZ Custom has some of those.
But, I can say she is quite happy with her M, and she is far more likely to carry it than an S, or C, due to ease of carry.
It won't replace my C or S, but it's a solid little pistol

The CZ-CZ catalog lists the trigger pull for every version of the P-10, except the M, as 25±4 N — 4.7–6.5 lb.  The M's trigger pull is listed as 52 N — 12 lb.  It just dawned on me that they transposed the 2 and the 5; unless the M has a radically different firing mechanism and your wife has extraordinarily strong hands.


At least CZ is no longer habitually misspelling "decocker" as "decoker."

[DOC 1500]

12 # pull on p10 who in the hell would want one of those?😳 no wonder they're getting rid of them.

[Skookum]

12 # pull on p10 who in the hell would want one of those?

Probably a typo in the catalog.  They specify 52 Newtons (12 lb), but all the other versions of the P-10 are 25 N (5.6 lb).  The 30% reduction in flush-fit mag capacity relative to competitors is a major drawback.