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Offline CZMikey

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CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« on: May 10, 2022, 04:57:15 PM »
CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.  I own a 97B that looks like my avatar pic.
Are the frames the same size on both of these weapons?   
Or is the grip area on the Sar slightly smaller?
Do the magazines interchange?   
Am I losing my mind?

Answers appreciated.   :o :o
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Offline Roscoe2212

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2022, 09:24:02 PM »
They look similar, but are quite different. I have both, and the SAR has a much beefier grip, what with its 14 round capacity, so much so a lot of folks don't like it.  I do and find it fun to shoot.  I have a bunch of different
45's  and 'collect them.'  The 97E, is the much improved version courtesy of CGW for a mere $650 they will transform yours also.  The K2-45C is my favorite, holds 13 rounds and would be usable for carry if you don't mind
hefty on the hip. Another large grip is the Tanfoglio Defiant version if that is what you are looking for. 8)

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2022, 03:13:50 AM »
I find the grip on the Tanfoglio Defiant/Witness to be just a bit more ergonomic than the Cz97B and the Magazines can be interchanged so long as you have the Tanfoglio Floorplate on the Magazine.

The SAR K2-45 is a much heavier and beefier Pistol than either the Tanfoglio Defiant/Witness or the Cz97B.


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Tanfoglio/EAA Witness .45 1992
Tanfoglio/EAA Witness .45 2005
EAA SAR K2-45 2013

The K2-45C is my favorite, holds 13 rounds and would be usable for carry if you don't mind hefty on the hip.

I tried Conceal Carry of my Full Size SAR K2-45 once, and only once, in a vertical shoulder rig, and I don't think my back has ever forgiven me.   ;)
Mind you, I was wearing it all day long.
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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2022, 11:18:05 AM »
I have a SAR K2-45 and K2-45c. Like the balance of the K2-45c better than it's big brother. The K2-45 and K2-45c hold the same number of rounds and use same mags. I've picked up the CZ97 several times and for some reason it just doesn't feel right in my hand. Many have commented that the Sar K2 45 is beefier than the CZ97 but it doesn't feel that way to me. Purely subjective I know. I also like the fact that the SARs hold 14+1. They are heavy and hand filling but I like them better than the CZ97 fit. I have medium sized hands for what that is worth for info.

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2022, 08:29:24 PM »
Thanks for the input guys.   
I have lil girl hands, so reaching the thumb safety on my 97B requires shifting my hand on the grip and having to shift back to reach the trigger.
I was hoping the gun was a bit smaller, but that is not the case.   :-[
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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2022, 10:37:14 AM »
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https://brassbucket.net/2022/05/12/sar-k2-45-grip-size-vs-cz-97/

Don't count the SAR out, I much prefer its grip (and reach to the slide lock) to the 97. the 97 still shoots better though.

Also my 97E conversion should arrive tomorrow! wohoo!
75B-BullShadow SAO (current fav)
SP-01-SAO-compedOpenMajor w/DOT
97E SAO conversion
97B - stock (for now)
SAR copies
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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2022, 01:16:18 PM »
Newageroman The link you sent https://brassbucket.net/2022/05/12/sar-k2-45-grip-size-vs-cz-97/ summarizes my impressions of CZ97/SAR- K2-45 much better than my poor attempt. The Sar "sits down" in my hand vs the 2x4 plank feel the CZ97 gives me. Some guns just snuggle up to ya. Some (did I say Glock?!?!) are a battle of wills to hold. It truly IS all subjective but I have yet to put a CZ 75 into anyone's hand that didn't immediately like the feel!

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2022, 08:51:33 AM »
yep, thx for the props. another good comparison is a 1911 with 10rnd mag with the CZ97. The 1911 felt like shooting a boomerang (think long and thin), the 97 wins over the 1911 IMO because of the reverse slide/low bore axis.
75B-BullShadow SAO (current fav)
SP-01-SAO-compedOpenMajor w/DOT
97E SAO conversion
97B - stock (for now)
SAR copies
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Offline Gunnerdad80

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2022, 12:38:13 PM »
I really like the K2-45c. Felt really good in the hand but unfortunately I haven’t fired one yet. Would love to own one though.

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2022, 09:28:21 PM »
I am having a trigger rework done on mine retaining the DA function. I have the full sized K2-45, I am thinking about selling it. 8)

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2022, 10:11:16 AM »
I am having a trigger rework done on mine retaining the DA function. I have the full sized K2-45, I am thinking about selling it. 8)
I did a Galloway spring job on my K245 and 45C. Made a big difference! Didn't mess with the trigger other than the spring. The K245 had smoothed out on it's own after about 200 rds. waiting to see if the same will work w the K245c. What are you having done to the trigger and where did you find someone to work on it? Gunsmiths and gun stores in my area seem to be reluctant to work on SARS or to even carry them for sale. Their loss!

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2022, 09:44:44 PM »
I am in Raleigh NC.  We have a local shop that makes custom rifles and 1911's.  The did "a trigger job on the
K2 45C.  He described it as not complicated, stoning and checking and checking and stoning until you get the right trigger, basically shortening the distance the sear/hammer have to be in contact, at least that what I got from the conversation.  Don't take that to the bank, surely a lot of folks here know what is involved, and it aint
rocket science, but I don't mess with the internals other than recoil spring. 8)

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2022, 10:26:52 AM »
I am having a trigger rework done on mine retaining the DA function. I have the full sized K2-45, I am thinking about selling it. 8)
I did a Galloway spring job on my K245 and 45C. Made a big difference! Didn't mess with the trigger other than the spring. The K245 had smoothed out on it's own after about 200 rds. waiting to see if the same will work w the K245c. What are you having done to the trigger and where did you find someone to work on it? Gunsmiths and gun stores in my area seem to be reluctant to work on SARS or to even carry them for sale. Their loss!

Which springs did you replace with which ones from Galloway?

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2023, 12:30:52 PM »
Sorry for the delay in answering your question Rorge Retson. Life junk. Anyway, I used the spring kit from Galloway https://gallowayprecision.com/sar/k2-45/reduced-power-spring-kit-for-the-sar-k2-b6-cm-k12-pistols
I have been getting occasional light strikes on primers with fail to fire. Second trigger pull always works but I think I'm gonna swap back the original hammer spring. Otherwise, very pleased. 

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Re: CZ 97B vs Sar K2 45.
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2023, 04:03:45 PM »
Sorry for the delay in answering your question Rorge Retson. Life junk. Anyway, I used the spring kit from Galloway https://gallowayprecision.com/sar/k2-45/reduced-power-spring-kit-for-the-sar-k2-b6-cm-k12-pistols
I have been getting occasional light strikes on primers with fail to fire. Second trigger pull always works but I think I'm gonna swap back the original hammer spring. Otherwise, very pleased.

That's what I figured - I ordered it already.   :)