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Offline viking499

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2022, 09:38:02 PM »
I've got one waiting for me, my lgs called today, my name is all over this thing.

And we expect a detailed review once you get it.

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2022, 10:15:54 PM »
still waiting for them to release the full-sized .40 I ordered 2.5 years ago
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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2022, 06:41:06 PM »
Watching one of the Youtube videos from a gun reviewer, the Sig P320 fire control unit was mentioned. I wasn't clear whether he meant that it had a similar concept of modular fire control or whether it used the same Sig P320 fire control unit.

I would assume it wouldn't be a Sig FCU since the DWX has an external hammer. The Sig FCU is striker fired.

Can anyone confirm?

-Bigcrock

On another firearm forum (ar-15.com) someone purchased and disassembled a new DWX and posted a picture of the internal parts.  It doesn't answer all the question about the DWX, but it does show the internal parts, including the FCU. 

The FCU is modular in the sense that it does hold some of the FCU parts, but unlike the  FCU in the P320 which can be removed as a complete assembly, the frame is also used to help hold the FCU and parts together.

I hope it's OK to post this link to the photo.

https://content.invisioncic.com/r270761/monthly_2022_12/7AA385CA-75A6-475D-B074-502D8CCDB18D.jpeg.13c93f7d5035a46fabb73648439ffb5f.jpeg

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2022, 09:28:05 AM »
Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.

So here is a link the high road where I posted a picture of my new DWX.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/merry-cz-christmas-to-me.914093/

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« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2022, 10:28:59 AM »
Congratulations.  Great looking pair of pistols.  You'll have to post more about the DWX after you've had a chance to shoot it.

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2022, 02:04:56 PM »
Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.

So here is a link the high road where I posted a picture of my new DWX.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/merry-cz-christmas-to-me.914093/

Thanks for posting the photos and the link!   

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2022, 05:25:52 PM »
Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.


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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2023, 02:51:38 PM »
Haven't watched it yet, but should be interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQyizRe8Yh0

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2023, 11:16:27 PM »
Picked up a DWX a few days ago.  A couple observations after tearing it down.  No sign of MIM ignition parts. Hammer were hooks cut to 0.020”. The sear nose angle isn't neutral on my Ed Brown sear jig and no relief angle was cut.  Don't want to mess with it since thumb safeties need to be fitted with ignition changes and they aren't available anywhere.  Trigger is still very clean breaking at 4lb 5oz.  The trigger drops in from the top and is tapped for an overtravel screw from the rear but no screw is installed.  Reset is short enough it probably doesn’t need one.  CZs are know to break slide stop pins.  The pin diameter is 0.238” compared to a 1911’s 0.200” so it’s quite beefy.  No slide stop plunger so pretty much “idiot scratch” proof as it has its own spring which also retains it via a groove.  Slightly lower bore height than a 1911, but nowhere near a Glock.  The slide is .980” whereas a 1911’s is 0.900” wide.  Just wide enough to direct mill for an RMR footprint.  The slide recoil spring tunnel will fit a traditional 1911 recoil spring, but the guide rod is .238” in diameter compared to .330” on a 1911 for round wire so it’s limited to flatwire springs.  It’s not too fiddley to reassemble, but unlike a 1911, you can’t use the thumb safety to push out the mainspring housing pin.  It needs a punch and a good whack with a hammer.  The sear/disco spring is a bit annoying since the beaver tail is fixed.  It takes 3 hands to hold the sear leg high enough while keeping the disco leg down all while sliding it into place from underneath.  The bent tab on the sear leg was missing/broken off/removed?  Just or fun I swapped it with my EGW 1911 sear spring.  Dropped right in and took 1lb off the break.  Tried to install a non-ambi 1911 safety but it won't fit without cutting away the front area where the plunger contacts.  The mag release is a little stiff but a standard 1911 spring fits so it can easily be tuned.

Only one major negative…it won’t pass the plunk test with any of my competition ammo.  Jacketed bullets are fine, but the ogive on 147gr Blue Bullets OAL 1.110" catch on the throat.  Every CZ and Glock gen5 oem barrel I’ve had also has a short cut leade.  Glock KKM plunks just fine.  The nitriding will murder regular HSS throating reamers.  Just placed an order for a custom carbide reamer with titanium carbonitride coating.

















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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2023, 06:15:36 AM »
Mine is wonderful although it averages 1.5 pounds of trigger pull. I am eagerly awaiting a Dullard Leather holster. 12 yards

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2023, 09:34:15 AM »
Great reviews! I am wanting one of these more and more each day.

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2023, 09:46:47 AM »
Only one major negative…it won’t pass the plunk test with any of my competition ammo.  Jacketed bullets are fine, but the ogive on 147gr Blue Bullets OAL 1.110" catch on the throat.  Every CZ and Glock gen5 oem barrel I’ve had also has a short cut leade.  Glock KKM plunks just fine.  The nitriding will murder regular HSS throating reamers.  Just placed an order for a custom carbide reamer with titanium carbonitride coating.



I see and acknowledge the issue... but wouldn't it be easier/ quicker/ less expensive to simply learn to load for the barrel as it is ? Our testing in the Ammo & Handloading forum shows that shorter cartridges often have more accurate shot placement.

Reaming always seems like a lot of time and trouble, accompanied by a LOT of unknown risk factors.
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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2023, 01:39:59 PM »

I see and acknowledge the issue... but wouldn't it be easier/ quicker/ less expensive to simply learn to load for the barrel as it is ? Our testing in the Ammo & Handloading forum shows that shorter cartridges often have more accurate shot placement.

Reaming always seems like a lot of time and trouble, accompanied by a LOT of unknown risk factors.

If I reloaded I'd absolutely just adjust my ammo but my rounds OAL are already 1.110".  They'd have to be around 1.030" which is quite short and I don't have the motivation to handload.  As it turns out the barrel is DLC not nitride so it wasn't too difficult with my HSS throating reamer.  Lots of cutting lube, one turn, clean, plunk test, and repeat.  Needed about 8 turns for the bullet to barely drag on the rifling.

Played with it over the weekend shooting 25y B8 drills.  Tried a 19# mainspring and replaced the sear spring.  The factory sear spring’s sear leg was slightly short and tricky to position correctly.  Tried a WC 13# flatwire recoil spring but really preferred an ISMI Glock 17 11# spring.  Despite the lower rating, the Glock spring was returning the front sight level while the WC was returning slightly high with 130PF 147gr.  Probably due to longer free length and increased preload.  Picked up a 1911 flat bottom FP stop to play with in the shop.  The firing pin hole is drilled lower in the DWX but I can throw it in the mill at work to make it match.  I took some measurements and the slide will fit a standard 1911 round wire recoil spring.  I’m going to open up the recoil spring hole and modify an X5 Legion guide rod to fit.  Opens up spring tuning to the full suite of 1911 springs and adds a little more weight under the muzzle.
 
The factory mag release felt a bit stiff even after a bit of buffing.  Picked up a Wolff reduced power 1911 spring pack.  The #3 felt just right.

Also, LOK palm swell Veloce grips for the Shadow2 feel just as good on the DWX as my SP-01.

Once I get the guide rod and fp stop situated, it’s off for optic milling and refinish.  I'm loving this thing.  Keeping my eyes peeled for a DWX Compact.




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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2023, 09:39:02 AM »
Glad to see some news on the DWX.  It took a while for DW to finally get the product to the shelves, but everything I've seen and read indicates that it was worth the wait.

I've been waiting to buy, but I was hoping that an optic ready version would be offered.  I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled.  DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.

Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame?  According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote.  Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame.  Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?     

The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023.  Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.

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Re: DWX news?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2023, 02:02:03 PM »

 I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled.  DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.

Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame?  According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote.  Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame.  Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?     

The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023.  Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.

Thanks for the update on the introduction of the OR full sized and base compact.  I too am waiting on a DWX OR and another year is hugely disappointing. I'd much rather have an OR Version with plates available for different footprints vs having one milled.  I've got many CZs milled for SROs but I'd like the option to mount DPPs or Sigs as well.  This could be bad for my bank account - I may use the delay to buy a TS2 Orange while I wait  :o